Ring And Run, Kurt Wermers, Ring And Run Comment Count

Brian

The doorbell rang and now I'm sitting outside here with no one to talk to except a burning bag of what I'm sure is poop. How are you doing, poop? Well? That's nice to hear. Would you like to spend the next four years lifting until you explode? Oh. Ok then.

Fun day to be out of pocket, as I missed another offensive lineman burning his bridges on his way out the door:

"I really didn't get along with the new coaches," Wermers said. "They were bringing in a lot of different kids that were not my kind of crowd. Coach Carr's staff was a whole different ballgame. It was like a family. But when Rodriguez came in it was a whole different feeling. It was more of a business.

"I figured I'd get out while I could."

I especially like the last sentence, which conjures up images of a daring midnight escape from Barwis wolves. Elliot Mealer stumbles fatally, falling a step behind. From the shadows, a flash. Mealer finds himself pinned to the ground, left to think about what awaits him…

…"Save yourself," Mealer cries weakly. "Get out while you can." In the dusky background, there is the shimmer of metal and a faint cackling. The last thing Wermers sees before tearing into the night is Mealer being hooked to a squat rack; both men's eyes fill with tears.

Passing through the thick foliage, Wermers vows revenge. I'm going to find someone from the Northwest Indiana Times, he thinks. And then we'll see what the score is.

But seriously folks: there were hints of this on the premium message boards when Wermers' departure was announced. One of Wermers' uncles, who had provided updates on his recruitment and was therefore established, posted a long thing about how Wermers felt the program was too hard and wouldn't let him do what he wanted to academically and that this was very bad. That went over about as well as you might expect.

The overall theme from "it's more of a business" and the uncle-based complaints: the program asked too much from Wermers, especially if he wasn't going to be on the two-deep, and he'd rather boot to a MAC team where he can see the field and enjoy Ball State's fine programs in broadcast journalism or whatever.

And, really, okay. If the program's too high a bar for some guys who signed up for a different coaching staff, that's fine. The academic complain is hard to reconcile with Patrick Omameh, engineer and future starting tackle. The "not my kind of crowd" reference is pure red meat for rivals, but can we like, you know, wait for any of these supposedly bad kids to rack up a single Fulmer Cup point before we run screaming from them? Yes, their dreadlocks are very scary. No, that doesn't mean they're evil. And I have heard Ohio State recruits cite "it's more of a business" as a reason they picked OSU.

I understand some bitterness is natural when you end up in a program you didn't really sign up for and don't like the new guys. But you'll have to do better than some references to Those People and veiled complaints that things are too hard to impress at this point. I will start getting concerned if players Rodriguez recruited start leaving the program or Michigan makes anything more than the tiniest one-point dent in the Fulmer Cup.

Comments

farside286

July 16th, 2009 at 1:32 PM ^

i dont understand the reason behind all this bashing. He found himself three deep on the roster and was really hoping to get playing time eventually and might have gotten hints he wouldnt get it. oh and all you academic bashers, he's a CS major

Tater

July 16th, 2009 at 2:17 PM ^

Wermers bashed UM on the way out; he deesrves any bashing he gets in return as a consequence. And yes, "not my kind of crowd" and the insinuation that that it was a "family" under Carr but not under RR does constitute bashing. I find the "family" comment to be an especially inflammatory remark, considering how Justin Boren went out. I also find "not my kind of crowd" to have racial implications, but that makes me feel sorry for his pathetic ignorance more than it would arouse my ire. My only question was whether or not he was manipulated into the barbs by a reporter or if he came up with this crap on his own. From his uncle's comments, it doesn't appear that anyone in the family has to be manipulated or prompted to badmouth the UM football or academic programs. And the mileage Wittenberg has already gotten out of this on his ESPN blog is more than sufficient to put Wermers in the "bridges burned" catagory.

moffle

July 16th, 2009 at 1:51 PM ^

Wermers' comments were either poorly worded or in poor taste, but I think it's an awfully big leap from what he said to the presumptions of racism people seem to be making. It's not as if Rodriguez has been singlehandedly desegregating college football these last couple years. In the absence of any further information, to me the quote just sounds like he wasn't happy at Michigan and wasn't media savvy enough to be more diplomatic about it.

cfaller96

July 16th, 2009 at 2:02 PM ^

His words. "Not my kind of crowd." I would love to hear a benevolent explanation for this statement that does not make Wermers out to be: A. A closeted bigot. B. A WATB unwilling to work his way up the depth chart. Go ahead, I'm all ears, but I really have trouble coming up with an explanation for the phrase "not my kind of crowd." Give it a try.

moffle

July 16th, 2009 at 4:32 PM ^

Maybe he's a Republican and the rest of the team Democrats. Maybe he's prejudiced against people under 5'10". Maybe his ideal night out is Olive Garden and a romantic comedy and the others insist on 80s night at the club. Maybe he loves Miller Lite for its great taste but all the Florida kids are mostly psyched that it's less filling.

farside286

July 16th, 2009 at 7:42 PM ^

lets just say there are some characters on the team that id guess nearly 99% of the people would not want to hang out with if you knew some of the stories about them. Like would you like to hang out with people that were nice to you in front of you and stole stuff behind your back? Would that be your kind of crowd?

cfaller96

July 17th, 2009 at 9:38 AM ^

If 1% of the team are "characters you don't want to hang out with," then I don't understand: 1. What you mean by that. Please elaborate. 2. How 8-10 players constitutes a "crowd." 3. How this "crowd" can be so dominant that the other 80+ players cannot mitigate Wermer's anxiety about those 8-10 guys. Try again, please.

farside286

July 17th, 2009 at 10:51 AM ^

ok the 99 percent thing was just saying this. Most of the people here on this blog would not want to hang out with some of the players on the team we all love after hearing about some of the stuff they do. What was bothering kurt that made him quit the team was not the fact about this crowd (which included early enrollees this year and a few last second additions to last years class) but he was just unhappy with football and the program. It may of been because it was too demanding on him but he just wasnt happy with the fit. Since he was an original Lloyd commit, he liked michigan enough to honor his commitment. As for the family remarks, it was more not being included as one of the favored. Some players who were favored got away with things that otherwise would of very easily made some of the Daily's crime notes.

cpt20

July 17th, 2009 at 11:33 AM ^

This is just bullshit. You give no facts at all. I can make shit up too. There is this player on the football team, you know, and I saw him dealing drugs. It's true because I heard it. Edit: Quoting chitown-"Grow a pair and say what you mean. This sort of oblique, vague assertion is bullshit. Anyone can suggest anything about anyone. I mean, let's just say hat I wouldn't leave farside286 alone with farm animals."

cfaller96

July 17th, 2009 at 1:58 PM ^

"What was bothering kurt that made him quit the team was not the fact about this crowd (which included early enrollees this year and a few last second additions to last years class) but he was just unhappy with football and the program." (emphasis mine) Please go back to my original request: offer a benevolent (and obviously, logical) explanation for Wermers' "not my kind of crowd" comment. You seem to want to ignore the "not my kind of crowd" statement, but NOT ignoring that statement was my whole fucking point. There's no way to interpret that statement without simultaneously concluding Wermers is a bigot or a baby. Please try again.

echoWhiskey

July 16th, 2009 at 2:05 PM ^

I'm confused about his comment about how much better it was under Coach Carr's staff. The guy was a 2008 recruit; he never played for Carr or his staff. Sure they recruited him, but it's all sunshine and lollipops until they get you on campus anyway. So, he really has no basis for comparison: argument invalid. He didn't get along and wasn't happy. Fine. He had every right to leave. Not being a douche about it on the way out would be nice, but he's 19, so I'm gonna cut him some slack. Oh, and "he called the shit poop."

bronxblue

July 16th, 2009 at 2:28 PM ^

His "not my kind of crowd" statement may not have that much to do with race; I mean, he's been playing football for quite some time, and I'm sure he has played with and against a variety of individuals. If playing with African-American players is some huge culture shock to Wermers, I would be amazed. I like to think his comment has more to do with the type of kid RR seems to be recruiting - kids who really buy into his system and maybe see football as a way to better themselves and their families (the Pahokee-type kid), and thus might come across as single-minded and difficult to relate to, especially if you are used to more of the "laid-back" attitude that Carr's regime took on those past few years. While I still think he was a bit of a punk in making these comments, I'm not going to judge him too harshly. He wanted to leave, RR granted his release, and best of luck at Ball State.

Tim Waymen

July 16th, 2009 at 2:57 PM ^

The idea that Wermers left the team because he is bigoted against black people is absolutely ridiculous and is 100% based on speculation. Wermers wasn't happy because there were too many Jews on the team.

JimBobTressel-0

July 16th, 2009 at 5:44 PM ^

Wow. Wow. I think it's safe to assume that Coach Carr had black people playing for him. Yet by the "crowd" comment, Kurt Wermers is automatically pegged as a racist? Even though he had no problem with the previous regime? Really? Fucking really? Take this example. If I hungout with stoners, but didn't smoke weed, and decided not to hang out with them because they weren't my crowd, i guess that'd make me a racist too. Fantastic logic there. Taking shots at people leaving the program is getting fucking tiring. Did he say anything truly offensive? No. I'd like to see half the people on this board talk as much shit when the players are standing in front of them.

Tim Waymen

July 16th, 2009 at 6:48 PM ^

I must say, this Wermers-racism theory is probably my favorite since the one that Mike Martin had personality issues because his teammates were not giving him high fives after plays.

Beware the Otter

July 16th, 2009 at 10:24 PM ^

I had a class with Wermers last year and my buddy, who was also in the class, was friends with him so me, my friend, Wermers, and another football player sat together. Let me say I have never heard anyone bitch as much as this kid did. Every single day he would just piss and moan about everything. Why did Barwis make us do this?..I'm sore...Why would the coaches do that?..Why did they put this guy here?..Did you see me totally own this guy?..This is so stupid, I hate the coaches...blah, blah, blah. It was obvious that the other player was getting sick of it too because his responses were often "Oh Yeah?" "Yeah, I know." (his inflection was what told me he was sick of it) So maybe Wermers was a hardworking kid and just bitches a lot, but I doubt it. I never got the impression he was racist as some are saying (even though I didn't know him THAT well I still don't think he was). He was clearly unhappy so good luck to him even though he was a douche on the way out.

NJWolverine

July 17th, 2009 at 11:02 AM ^

It'll be interesting to see the graduation rates and any legal issues Rodriguez's players have here, but as a point of comparison, the old regime's graduation rates were not high (particularly for black players) and legal issues did surface quite frequently, though not as high profile.