Breaking Michigan's Running Back Curse Comment Count

Brendan Roose July 16th, 2021 at 2:25 PM

Behind Dax Hill and Chris Hinton, Zach Charbonnet garnered some of the greatest hype in Michigan’s ninth-ranked 2019 recruiting class. He was the 46th-ranked national recruit and No. 4 running back on the 247 Composite — the most highly-touted running back to commit to Michigan since Derrick Green — drawing first-round NFL Draft projections and comparisons to the likes of David Johnson. In some corners of the internet (including this one!), Charbonnet was predicted to grow into Wolverines’ best back since before your author was born. Sure, the program had missed a few times in the past, but it’s not like it was under some sort of curse that prevented any elite running back recruit from living up to his potential or anything. 

Ah. Well. Nevertheless

Michigan has a problem — one that began well before the Harbaugh era. Over the past decade and beyond, despite attracting scores of top-ranked recruits at running back, the program has been unable to produce a truly elite rusher. The last Wolverine back to get drafted in the first round was Chris Perry in 2004, and the highest-drafted rusher since then was Chris Evans, who was the 18th pick of the sixth round in 2021.* 

During that time, Michigan turned plenty of average recruits into good backs. De’Veon Smith ran hard and sometimes did fun things. Karan Higdon was reliably consistent and picked up yards after contact. Even now, Hassan Haskins is a decent enough runner, despite being a three-star running back converted to linebacker then re-converted to running back. But the Wolverines’ sole elite back in the last decade and a half was Mike Hart, and even so, his skills never translated into a real NFL career. Any way you look at it, Michigan has failed to produce any top-level players in the backfield. 

Zach Charbonnet was supposed to solve that problem. The consensus at his signing said that he was about as close to a can’t-miss as the Wolverines could get; he had the strength, the speed, the change-of-direction, pretty much everything you could hope for in a college back. Now, with his transfer just two years down the line, he’s the latest rusher to depart a seemingly cursed program without any major accolades. 

It would be easy to slip into hopelessness about Michigan’s backfield situation, yet it also feels unreasonable to do so. Even with Charbonnet gone, the Wolverines have a strong, experienced rusher; an elusive speedster who, because of his height, probably won’t be able to avoid Mike Hart comparisons; and an elite freshman who garnered even more fanfare than Charbonnet out of high school. At least on paper, Hassan Haskins, Blake Corum, and Donovan Edwards make for one of the strongest — even if inexperienced — backfields in the country. It even brings in Mike Hart as the latest Anointed One on Michigan’s coaching staff. Still, the burning question remains:

Can they break the curse?

[After THE JUMP: You've got to not hand it to him.]

*Technically, Chris Evans and Mike Hart both went 202nd overall, but Hart was listed as the 36th pick of the sixth round because the NFL Draft order is dumb and doesn’t make sense. The point still stands, just let me have my damn narrative. 

Why didn’t Charbonnet pan out?

Obviously, Charbonnet left for UCLA before he could fully reach his potential in Ann Arbor, but even so, I don’t think he was quite on pace to get there anyway. 

There are a number of reasons for that, not the least of which was coaching. From a development standpoint, Charbonnet spent two years under the tutelage of Jay Harbaugh, who, even if he’s proven to be an excellent recruiter, had no experience coaching running backs and, frankly, probably wasn’t ready to take on elite talent. Jay’s move to coaching the tight ends tells me that either he or his father recognized the backfield needed a fresh face. 

Even beyond the development aspects, Charbonnet never seemed to be used properly in the offense — none of Michigan’s backs did. It wasn’t quite as egregious as the “never put Chris Evans into space or use him as a receiver” approach, but the staff still struggled to put Charbonnet into situations where he could succeed. He was a player with the potential to be used as a true workhorse back, but there were times where he’d get a few big carries and then not see the field for several drives. Part of that stems from nagging injuries, but it also speaks to a coaching staff that shares the wealth too much when one back is visibly doing better than the rest. It reflects an even broader trend — and I’ve mentioned this before — of the staff to overthink things instead of just sticking to the players and plays that are working. 

Consider 2019 against Penn State, where the Wolverines fell one play short of completing an improbable comeback in Happy Valley. Charbonnet was far and away the best rusher for Michigan that night, averaging 5.4 yards per carry for 81 total yards. And yet, he split time almost exactly (15 carries to 13) with Hassan Haskins, who averaged just 2.2 yards per carry for 28 yards. There were entire drives where Charbonnet hardly saw the field at all. Don’t get me wrong — Haskins is a solid back, and I think he’ll continue to do well in 2021. But in that game, the coaching staff hampered the rushing attack by insisting on splitting the carries when, clearly, it was not working. 

I can’t read minds. I don’t know exactly what went into Charbonnet’s decision to transfer, or all of the circumstances at play during his time in Ann Arbor. But it certainly wouldn’t be unfair to think that, if the coaching staff had used him properly (or, in some situations, used him at all), things could have played out very differently. 

What about Corum and Edwards?

The coaching staff has an interesting problem on its hands with how it approaches splitting the load in 2021. I would bet that Haskins is the busiest running back — mostly by virtue of his experience and the staff’s risk aversion toward fumbles — but that role should diminish as the season wears on. Like Charbonnet, Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards both have higher ceilings than Haskins, but since they’re also both young, it becomes a question of how much the coaches are willing to use them and how they want to go about doing that. 

Let’s start with Corum. We got a clue as to how the coaching staff wants to use him on the very first play of last season, with a little play-action swing pass that befuddled Chris Fowler and gave Corum enough space to make something happen: 

Give me one moment to geek out over the design here. Nobody expected Michigan to set up a true freshman on the very first play of the season, and Gattis went with a play directly aimed to exploit that. These little flares could go a long way in the future in forcing linebackers to hesitate and preventing them from cheating on the run. 

Okay, geeking done. In Corum’s albeit limited snaps in 2020, his biggest plays seemed to come through the air, though he did tally just five receptions in six games. Michigan’s wealth of short and fast receivers might mean Corum doesn’t see that much use in the passing game, but I would expect that they’ll try to include him as a counter to the defense cheating in one direction or another. Generally speaking, he’ll be an all-purpose back, with maybe some focus on using his speed on plays where he needs to get around the edge. 

For Donovan Edwards, it’s tough to project what the coaches will do with a back that can do anything. Obviously, he will get snaps. He’s the highest-ranked running back the Wolverines have picked up in years; to have him on the bench for a season would be downright criminal. I would guess that he gets a decent amount of carries in the first few games, and as the season goes on, he continues to carry more and more of the load on offense — a process that could be accelerated by an injury. By the end of the season, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him supplant Haskins as the No. 1 back, but with this coaching staff, it might also be more of a 1a and 1b situation. 

Long term, the sky's the limit for where Edwards could go. At the risk of placing the same expectations placed on Charbonnet (and literally every other significant running back commit in the last decade), if he doesn’t pan out at Michigan, I’m not sure anyone will. By the end of his time in Ann Arbor, the expectation should be First-Team All-Big Ten; any failure to at least come close to that should be seen as an indictment on the program. 

Of course, there’s one more major addition to the running back room: Mike Hart. Maybe I can’t mentally separate the achievements of Mike Hart the player with Mike Hart the coach, but to me, this was a home-run hire. At Indiana, he took a three-star recruit in Stevie Scott and developed him into a Second-Team All-Big Ten rusher. He’s everything that Harbaugh was looking for in his offseason staff reshuffling — young, energetic, and a strong recruiter who loves Michigan. 

After years of woeful development in the backfield, maybe that youth is exactly what the Wolverines need. Sure, to some extent, those problems have been caused by bad luck. Maybe the program really is cursed to never have an elite running back, and Corum and Edwards are doomed to the same fate as Zach Charbonnet, Derrick Green, Kareem Walker, and the rest of the bunch. 

I’ll put it this way: If the best back of Michigan’s last generation can’t turn Corum or Edwards into one of the best backs of this generation, I’m not sure the curse can be broken. 
 

Comments

KennyHiggins

July 16th, 2021 at 2:40 PM ^

On occasion, you gotta fuckin' believe.  The ingredients are all there.  I loved the piece, but I think the failure to take the staff to task for a totally unimaginative offense, and use of the running backs, was a key component to why seemingly promising backs never panned out.  I wanna believe.  Go Blue!

East German Judge

July 16th, 2021 at 3:34 PM ^

....also, I have never been a huge fan of Jay's coaching and Brendon agrees, "....Jay Harbaugh, who, even if he’s proven to be an excellent recruiter, had no experience coaching running backs and, frankly, probably wasn’t ready to take on elite talent...."

Be honest, would he be on this staff, or previously on John's" if his last name was not "Harbaugh"?  What happened to the meritocracy?

King Tot

July 17th, 2021 at 9:56 AM ^

The Jaybaugh takes are so tired. Let's look at running under Jay.

2017 - Karan Higdon/Chris Evans 3rd team/honorable mention all Big10.

2018 - Karan Higdon 1st team all Big10, first 1,000 yard rusher since 2011.

2019 - Zack Charbonnet Hon/3rd Team and breaks freshman TD record, Hassan Haskins Hon Big10.

2020 - Hassan Haskins Hon Big10

He also recruited well enough that even being hit by transfers it is one of our deepest positions. Recruits regularly say how much they learn from him going through film et cetera. 

 

 

JonnyHintz

July 17th, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^

Completely agree. Jay has been a good position coach wherever we have asked him to be. Mind you, those backs are receiving those accolades while splitting carries. So their total yards and TDs are down compared to where they’d be if we had one or two of them shoulder the load. 
 

Jay moving back to TE has more to do with adding Mike Hart than it does Jay struggling with running backs. The upside of Hart on staff (alum, local legend, record holder, plus recruiter) and Jay going back to another position he’s had a lot of success coaching is why the move was made. 
 

People ignorantly look at the fact that we haven’t had a singular back putting up huge numbers and think that it’s an indictment on Jay. It isn’t Jay’s job to have a single back put up big numbers. It’s his job to create a productive RB unit, and he’s done that year after year. Our running backs have done pretty damn well as a unit, with multiple guys averaging over 5 ypc on a yearly basis. 

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 2:28 AM ^

I dont understand how this whole post can be written about how Michigan has had one back drafted in 15 years who didnt even start, and yet people will still defend how Jay Harbaugh has done a good job here?! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

He certainly hasn't done a bad job, but it's no where near good enough...those numbers any any other big time program would get the running backs coach fired. 

Also everyone for some reason wants to absolve him of all responsibility for the weird substitutions and work loads. I don't get it. 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 11:29 AM ^

Probably because in the time Jay has been running backs coach, we’ve only had two RBs graduate... both of which signed NFL deals and one of which was drafted. The other happens to be the last back to reach 1,000 since Toussaint, and Hart before him. I really don’t see how you can hold it against him for not getting a bunch of guys drafted when he’s overseen an incredibly young running back room that hasn’t even had many players ELIGIBLE for the draft.

But again, it’s also not his job to get players drafted. It’s his job to produce an effective running backs group. If getting players drafted was the job of a coach, then everyone who wants Harbaugh gone would sound ridiculous. 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^

Rushing yards per game is a pretty lazy stat to bring up. A lot goes into that. How many times are you running it? How many plays are you running it? Are you leading in a lot of games and running it more? 
 

Then there’s scheme you have to take into context. Are you an Ohio State where your goal is to score as many points as humanly possible so your plays are designed to be more explosive? Or are you a ball control team that wants to control the clock and win field position? It’s really no secret that we haven’t been running the most electric style offense we could be. 
 

Then there’s the fact that “rushing yards per game,” includes QB runs and sacks. Neither of which a RBs coach has any say in. Justin Fields added almost 500 yards on the ground for OSU in 2019 while Shea/DMac added 107. Penn State’s QBs added over 600 yards.

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 5:09 PM ^

Ah yes, it's lazy because you don't like it, huh? Today's offenses with running QBs should be putting up higher rushing yards per game...thats the point.

In 2019 with 4 NFL offensive lineman we had a whopping 150 yards per game....116 yards less per game than OSU.

Wisconsin never has a QB with running ability and yet...still 83 yards per game less than them. 

Please keep telling me how great the running game is. If you repeat it enough it must be true. 

Also you say his job is not to produce NFL backs, fine. It is his job to recruit backs good enough here that in general they'll be drafted if good enough...our only back drafted was 4th string last year...how does that make any sense to you? 

I really think it's been so long that you and others forget that nearly every starting Michigan back went on to be drafted from the mid 80s until 2007. 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 5:37 PM ^

No, it’s just lazy because we’re talking about a running backs coach and you’re citing something that doesn’t really have to do with a running backs coach. 
 

“You’re right, offenses with running QBs should be putting up higher rushing yards per game. That’s the point.” Yeah, that’s MY point. You’re citing rushing yards per game and not taking it in the context of RUNNING BACKS. 
 

It’s lazy because you’re cherry picking a stat that is impacted by things outside of running backs and using it to criticize the running backs. See the issue yet? 
 

2019 we put up 116 ypg less than OSU... except Fields accounted for 40 of those yards per game. OSU also ran the ball 10 extra times per game than Michigan, accounting for another large chunk of those yards per game. You starting to see why “rushing yards per game” is a lazy way to judge a running backs group yet? It’s not Jay’s fault another team has a better running QB, nor is it his fault another team runs the ball more, nor is it his fault if other teams run the ball more with WRs. You look at the production of RUNNING BACKS to judge a RB coach. Not the rushing yards per game. That’s impacted by much more than running backs.
 

“Also you say his job is not to produce NFL backs, fine. It is his job to recruit backs good enough here that in general they'll be drafted if good enough...our only back drafted was 4th string last year...how does that make any sense to you?” 
 

Okay, so go ahead and give me a list of all the running backs recruited under Jay that have even been ELIGIBLE for the draft. You want to blame him for not recruiting running backs that get drafted when none of the backs he’s recruited have even been eligible for the draft yet? How does that make any sense to you? 
 

 

MJ14

July 18th, 2021 at 7:28 PM ^

Are you serious about Evans? Even I realize you have to know the answer to that and you’re just acting ignorant, intentionally, of the fact that Evans had to sit out a year for academic issues and then it was a strange Covid year with no spring. So Evans was most likely not prepared due to unforeseen circumstances. 

MJ14

July 18th, 2021 at 12:51 PM ^

 

He certainly hasn't done a bad job, but it's no where near good enough...those numbers any any other big time program would get the running backs coach fired. 
 

Hart averages at IU over his entire time there(4 years):132 yards per game rushing at 3.7 ypc. 

The 4 years before Hart at IU: 207 yards per game at 4.8 ypc. 

Harbaugh 4 years as running backs coach at UM: 166 yards per game at 4.45 ypc.

The 4 years before Jay at UM(this includes Wheatley): 165 yards per game at 4.25 ypc. 

I have noted this before but I will again now. I liked Hart as a player and I think he’ll be a good coach. Especially as an assistant and helping move the offense forward. But instead of talking about stuff you clearly don’t see to understand, I broke it down for you. Facts are facts and stats are stats. Unless you want to pretend like that’s not the case. Which would be laughable. 

In the 4 years before Hart, IU had a better overall rushing attack than the 4 years with Hart. And in the same time frame while Harbaugh and Hart were coaching running backs, Michigan ran for 30+ more yards per game at almost a whole yard difference. Hart’s backs at IU ran for 3.7 ypc. Clearly they are capable of being as productive as UM because the 4 years before Hart they had more yards per game at a better rushing rate per carry. 

Jay may not have moved Michigan forward a ton, but he did move the needle a tiny bit. Michigan ran for almost the exact same amount of yards in the 4 years Harbaugh was coach at a slightly better ypc. So they ran for the same amount of yards on less attempts per game. Either way Jay’s backs had more success than Harts. And IU had a lot more success for the 4 years before Hart than they did with him. 

We can go further into this if you want and compared more stats. But the fact is that there is nothing showing Hart is a better running back coach over Harbaugh. I have done this with Harts other stops as well. Hart is not an elite running back coach. Nor is it proven that he is a better recruiter than Jay. So you, as well as many others, should stop now. Usually people say “stop while you’re ahead” but that wouldn’t make sense here. Because you’re not ahead. You’re wrong and the facts show you are wrong. 

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 1:38 PM ^

I never said Hart was a better RB coach than Jay...he might be, he might not be, but youre comparing Michigan to Indiana. I would hope Michigan's running game would be better than Indiana's due to OL and RB talent alone, but it's not better by much.

Here lies the problem, our running game is mediocre at best compared to top programs who we should be competing with. 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^

See the issue with you making this about an Indiana-Michigan comparison, is that it doesn’t acknowledge the 1 ypc drop at Indiana from the 4 years prior to Hart. And that Hart’s time at Indiana included an all conference back in Stevie Scott and their backs STILL had a drop in production 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^

“But Stevie Scott is a good back and put up a lot of yards at Indiana.”... 

 

Idk man, some people around here seem to believe it’s better to have one guy average 4 yards per carry and get 1,000 yards because he has a lot of touches than to have three guys split the carries and all have 4.5+ ypc. I don’t get the logic and when you break down the numbers, it doesn’t make much sense. 
 

I’m equally skeptical when it comes to Hart. I know a lot of the hype around him as a coach stems from his playing time here, but the actual results at Indians haven’t backed that up. The job of the running backs coach is to coach his unit up into a productive unit. Nobody can rationally argue that Jay hasn’t done very well at that. Focusing on individual statistics is lazy and isn’t Jay’s (or any RB coach’s) job. 

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 2:31 PM ^

Well most of the best programs seem to have one guy they rely on while also rotating other guys in, we don't have that, we had Haskins seemingly as starter last year who played okay, but then they bring in Charbonet who breaks off a 30 yard run, then we don't see him for another quarter.

Nobody's arguing about not rotating backs, this isnt Chris Perry in 2003 having 51 carries anymore. But the problem is we don't have one guy to rely on and the rotations don't even make sense. 

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 2:46 PM ^

None of that is relevant at all, that’s the point. How you split your carries doesn’t matter. You don’t need one guy to rely on. Whether you have a 70/30 split between two guys, three guys split evenly, or you spread it between 5 guys. It. Doesn’t. Matter. The productivity of the UNIT is what matters. And Jay has been a positive influence on the productivity of the running back unit in his time as RB coach. 
 

You’re criticizing him for things that don’t have anything to do with his job. There is plenty in this program you can justifiably criticize. This isn’t one of them. 

MJ14

July 18th, 2021 at 4:02 PM ^

Exactly. I don’t get how people don’t see this. If Michigan has 6 guys run for 500 yards a piece and Bama has 2 guys run for 1500 a piece and they all run for 5 ypc then what does it matter? 

3000 yards at 5 ypc is still 3000 yards at 5 ypc no matter how you slice it. Now if you end up with half the guys at 3 ypc and the other half at 5 or better and you’re still splitting carries then OK. But that’s not the case here. Haskins has a better ypc average over his career than ZC. 

ZC was a fine back. Don’t get me wrong. He could have had a good career here. But Michigan has good backs, thanks to Harbaugh. The running game is not Michigan’s current issue. 

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 4:54 PM ^

Your example doesnt matter though because Michigan doesnt have that many good backs to equal Alabama...you're overrating what we have.

We have a bunch of okay to good backs...Alabama had Najee Harris to lean on then a few others to give him a break. If "splitting carries is how the game is now" as you say, why did Najee get 250 carries by himself? Why did Karan Higdon get the majority of the carries in 2017 and 2018? If we had a true workhorse back he would be playing as such, but we don't. Who is that on?

JonnyHintz

July 18th, 2021 at 5:50 PM ^

It’s not on anybody? Because having a workhorse back isn’t necessary. Once again, it isn’t Jay’s job to have a workhorse back shouldering the load. It’s his job to create a productive running game. You don’t need one guy to produce, you can spread that production. It is literally no different for Najee to get 2000 yards than it would be for Bama to split carries and get 1,000 yards apiece from two backs on the same number of carries. The stats of an individual back aren’t relevant, it’s the group as a whole that matters.

UMxWolverines

July 18th, 2021 at 7:57 PM ^

Once again, define productive? You're not taking into consideration the rotation and getting guys into rhythm, and yes it does make a difference.

Please point out a playoff caliber program to me that doesnt have a primary back. 

Do you consider our running game anywhere on the level of Wisconsin?Every Wisconsin starting running back seems to have no problem getting drafted. 

 

MJ14

July 18th, 2021 at 3:53 PM ^

Michigan does have one guy to rely on if needed. His name is Hassan Haskins. He is a better back than Stevie Scott by a long stretch. But Michigan has other backs with different skill sets. So they utilize them all. If Haskins played for IU he could run for 1000 yards in a season. He could do it at Michigan as well if Michigan decides to ride one guy for 60-70% of the carries. 

True Blue Grit

July 16th, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^

Let's face it.  The RB coaching here has been garbage since the Carr years (outside of maybe Wheatley who was only here one year).  Add to that poor to mediocre OL run blocking for many games since then, and it's not surprising we haven't had any elite backs.   If we can get a good coach (like Mike Hart) and keep him here for awhile, we at least have a chance of getting more out of our backs.  

kurpit

July 16th, 2021 at 3:08 PM ^

>On occasion, you gotta fuckin' believe.

I think people have been believing more than just on occasion. This fanbase has probably been believing more than it rightly should. Sometimes the team just has to produce to show the fans that their beliefs aren't misguided.

WolverineMan1988

July 16th, 2021 at 5:14 PM ^

This x1000 Kenny. All the talent in the world means nothing when the defense generally knows what’s coming. Combine that fact with some suspect/bad O-lines over the years (I acknowledge Harbaugh has had some decent/good line play) and a share the wealth attitude where no single back can ever get into a rhythm and it’s not that hard to figure out why Michigan is where talented RBs go to die.

blueheron

July 16th, 2021 at 6:37 PM ^

I believe this is an important part:

"... staff’s risk aversion toward fumbles ..."

Harbaugh would seemingly choose going 3-and-out after a kick-off over throwing downfield or handing the ball to a guy who fumbled once two seasons ago. Bo was the same way. Neither could conceive of their defense getting tired or demoralized by offensive ineptitude.

NeverPunt

July 16th, 2021 at 10:27 PM ^

I’d like to believe but I dunno man. The thing that sucks about the the last few years of the Harbaugh era is that it just seems like death by a thousand cuts because we can’t get injuries, play calling, execution, decision making, recruiting, coaching, player development, etc… to ever all work at the same time. This is what has me most pessimistic about the remaining Harbaugh years - it’s not “fix recruiting” or “get a qb” and then we are in the title game. It’s that we are about five or six fixes away and it seems like if we get busy fixing something, something else will break. I would love to be wrong and maybe the new coaching staff that’s come aboard can right the ship without throwing a bunch of important shit overboard. Time will tell

ERdocLSA2004

July 16th, 2021 at 10:34 PM ^

Exactly.  Can you break a curse if you don’t get rid of the reason for the curse?  Answer: probably not.  
 

We’ve had plenty of elite talent at the RB position over the JH tenure.  He is striking out with them at an unbelievably high rate.  Most people would call this a pattern.  Harbaugh apologists only believe in odds defying bad luck.

JonnyHintz

July 17th, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^

What exactly is the reason for the curse though? Because this curse goes a lot further back than anyone currently associated with the football program (minus Hart as a player). 
 

Hoke and RR had the same problem. This isn’t a Harbaugh issue, though it isn’t one that’s changed since he arrived. 

MJ14

July 18th, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^

I think people would be scared to learn that in 2003 when their savior was leading the rushing attack(Chris Perry that is) Michigan ran for 175.9 yards per game at 4.3 ypc and 2.2 tds a game. I’ll quote myself here from earlier in the thread: 

Harbaugh 4 years as running backs coach at UM: 166 yards per game at 4.45 ypc.

I’ll go ahead and include that the team averaged exactly 2 tds per game in every season. So 2003 with Perry was 10 yards and .2 tds better at a .15 worse ypc. So over a 4 year period we see that Jays running backs have actually fared better than the team in 2003 except for the .2 tds per game. So over the same amount of attempts Michigan under Harbaugh would actually fare better than 2003 in yards. 

So I’ll give you the .2 tds more per game. Which equals 2.5 touchdowns over the course of the season. Harbaugh’s guy have averaged 37.3 carries per season. 2003 was 41.4 attempts per game. So in 4 years if Michigan would have averaged 4 more carries per game I can almost guarantee you that they would have more than made up for the 2.5 total touchdowns over the course of a season. That would be 52 more attempts a year and they would just need 2.5 more touchdowns over those whole 52 touchdowns. 

So let’s be real. Was 2003 with Perry better than the 4 years under Harbaugh? And the better question is what about the next 4 years under Haskins, Corum, Edwards? Because Jay recruited those guys and now Hart will get all the credit if they do well. But as clearly shown here Jay succeeded just as much as Michigan did in 2003 with Perry. Who was 4th in heisman voting. 
 

MGoStrength

July 17th, 2021 at 12:30 PM ^

Corum has the look of JK Dobbins's body type.  I hope that somehow translates to the same level of performance.  

They are both short and stalky, but Dobbins was a top 50 recruit whereas Corum was a top 150.  I think there are some similar attributes such as being on the short side, being very well built, and being fast, but Dobbins is probably on another level with talent and upside.  I'd say Corum is probably somewhere between Dobbins & Higdon, which is a good place to be, but I'd be surprised to see him put up 1,400 or 2,000 yards the way Dobbins did, partly because he's not quite as talented IMO, partly due to the weapons around him, partly because of the play calling, and partly because Dobbins was the most talented back on his roster whereas Corum has Edwards behind him.  I'd project him (favorably) more like Mike Weber who had Dobbins behind him.  He was in the 600-1000 yd range per year.

Brian Griese

July 16th, 2021 at 2:53 PM ^

Couldn’t agree more with your analysis. I don’t enjoy beating the same drum over and over, but the point stands: Michigan tries to feed way too many mouths on offense relative to the tempo they play at. It’s worked to our detriment for 11 years now yet here we are. I do get that players are more apt to transfer now opposed to yesteryear so you have to get touches to players that might not be ‘ready’, but that’s easier to stomach when you’re snapping the ball 75x a game. 

Players like Nico, DPJ and Evans should have been 8-10 reception each per game without breaking a sweat. 

MJ14

July 16th, 2021 at 3:57 PM ^

So Chris Olave got an average of 7.1 receptions per game. Garrett Wilson got an average of 5.3 receptions per game. Then the next 5 guys averaged just at 1 reception per game or less. And your idea is that somehow Michigan should have 3 guys with 8 to 10 receptions per game. This tells me how out of touch our fan base is. Just for comparison sake let’s look at ‘Bama. 

Smith 9 receptions per game on the money.  Najee Harris 3.3 receptions per game. 3 guys at almost 2 receptions per game on average. John Metchie 4.2 receptions per game. 

So basically Bama and OSU top two guys average just over 12 receptions per game together. And you believe Michigan should have 3 guys all with 8 to 10 a game without breaking a sweat? So 4 of the best receivers in the country. One the best in college football history. Another a record breaking big ten guy. Even if you add all 4 up from Bama and OSU they average 25 receptions a game. Give or take. And you want Michigan to have 3 guys average 24-30?

That doesn’t even get me started on the article that was just posted. 

Edit: I removed some of my rude comments. Still a negative tone towards Brian Grease here, but I felt it was only fair to keep up most of my post because I didn’t want to take it all down and hide. I can take my negs as needed for how rude I was. But I did edit a little bit of it that was specifically more rude towards Brian Grease. 

Obviously a misunderstanding with targets can receptions. We both agree that Michigan top guys should at least get 8 or so targets a game. That is a fair statement. Michigan does need to do better on offense I will agree. Some of the article just set me off and then I took his comment the wrong way and immediately was negative myself. Sorry Brian.