OT: Cleveland Indians to retire Chief Wahoo logo
It was just announced that Cleveland will be retiring the Chief Wahoo logo starting in 2019. Always an interesting topic of debate, especially with Dan Snyder seeming so unwilling to bend on a mascot/name that seems even more offensive than Cleveland's.
Since they're a division rival of Detroit's, we see them quite a bit each season, and it defintely seems that they've already been de-emphasizing Chief Wahoo in recent years, with the block 'C' logo becoming more prominent on their caps and uniforms.
Thought this might be of interest to some of the baseball fans on the board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/29/sports/baseball/cleveland-indians-chief-wahoo-logo.html
January 29th, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^
The logo doesn't personally offend me in any way so please read on while I explain why no one else should be offended either
January 29th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
As I've learned around these parts, Googling is hard.
January 29th, 2018 at 3:25 PM ^
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January 29th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
How else are they going to milk memorabilia sales for the next year if they don't give Chief Wahoo a year long send off tour?
January 29th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
I literally can't tell sometimes when people are being intentionally obtuse for the sake of stoking the flames of an argument or if they are just simply obtuse.
January 29th, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 4:35 PM ^
No, it's because it's a stupid mascot that doesn't really poke fun at anyone in particular, so it's mostly benign. And why would the mascot be black? It would just be puzzling, no?
On the other hand, the Cleveland Indians, with a red faced, grinning idiot as a mascot for a city with a 0.3% Native American population, is literally treating a race of people, who were eradicated from their own country, as nothing more than a fun thing for mascot.
Honestly in my mind, it would be like having a team named the Atlanta House Negros with Aunt Jemima as the mascot. You just don't actually consider what Chief Wahoo represents either out of ignorance or worse, willful ignorance.
January 29th, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
You are wrong. I am part indian. The tribes were already wiping each other out. Do you think other cultures like imperial Japan would have reserved land and ensured income for native cultures? No they would have been wiped out entirely. What happened was not surprising given the technology difference between the two cultures. While it was sad, it could have been much worse.
January 30th, 2018 at 12:34 AM ^
No you are wrong. It could not have been much worse. It was genocide by every accepted definition of genocide.
January 29th, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
Indians announce Chief Wahoo retirement:
"This is dumb why is everyone so offended these days"
Jemele Hill says she hates Michigan:
"THIS WOMAN IS RUINING MY LIFE"
January 29th, 2018 at 4:05 PM ^
Well, let's be honest. The folks you're describing are actually meaning to say "THIS N****** SPARTAN WOMAN IS RUINING MY LIFE"
January 29th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
How did the Stalingrad Comrades do this past baseball season?
January 29th, 2018 at 4:21 PM ^
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January 29th, 2018 at 7:19 PM ^
like who is and isn't standing for the national anthem. What kind of idiot gets offended about something that trivial.
January 29th, 2018 at 7:56 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 10:59 PM ^
But you sure as shit are.
January 29th, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^
Let me guess. It's "Pulling Numbers Out of My Ass Township"
January 30th, 2018 at 12:46 AM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
to see that you're 100% blowing smoke out of your ass.
January 29th, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^
Can they get rid of that annoying drum while they're at it? Drives me crazy on TV, can't even imagine how bad it would be live and in person.
January 29th, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^
January 29th, 2018 at 4:30 PM ^
Seeing whomever says something like "well, are we going to rename the Detroit Lions because that name is offensive to large golden brown big cats from Africa?!" because that lets me know I can safely disregard anything else they say.
(That said, the Detroit Lions nickname *is* offensive to actual golden brown big cats because actual lions would've had the sense to not hire Matt Millen)
January 29th, 2018 at 6:21 PM ^
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February 6th, 2018 at 9:15 AM ^
Cheif Wahoo is a super happy indian guy. I really doubt any native americans are upset that he is hanging out in Cleveland. Might as well ban all old Warner Bros. cartoons too then. And yes, the block C looks awful.
February 6th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^