WTKA Roundtable: It Was 75-2 After All
Things discussed:
- Guys who picked 31-17 admit it was closer to 75-2 than 33-17. The offense moving the ball in particular was wonderful.
- Don’t get too excited: Florida’s coaching is atrocious.
- The 3-3-5 created holes for linebackers and confused Florida by not letting them know where the fourth DL is going to be (example: first play of the 4th Q).
- Michigan’s personnel is really well-suited to this.
- Amazing that the 3-3-5 plans never escaped the submarine.
- Around the nation: Ohio State’s dudes are just guys, JK Dobbins just took Mike Weber’s job.
- Purdue! Brohm is the most Tilleresque play they could have made and that’s what they should do. Craig thinks the season got harder.
- Predictions for Cincy: 75-2.
- “You can go to a Michigan football event and see up on a large screen an overweight naked man on top of a shark.”
You can catch the entire episode on Michigan Insider's podcast stream on Audioboom.
Segment two is here. Segment three is here.
THE USUAL LINKS
September 8th, 2017 at 9:07 AM ^
Run a double tight end set
You've got a QB...or maybe you go wildcat with ???
You've got 1 WR
You've got a FB
You've got a RB
Final score: 49-0...no punts...well-rested defense throws a shut-out.
September 8th, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
that I disagree with more consitantly that is a smart as Ed Feng. He seems nice, super intelligent, and engaged, but he seems to come to very different conclusions than I do when watching football.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^
I get the impression that he doesn't watch many actual games. It seems like he autodownloads box scores in real time and uses his algorithms and fancystats to try and figure out who is winning or what the score should be.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
one of the most genuinely kind and thoughtful persons I have ever met.
He is also pretty damned smart aside from his fancy education (Rice Undergrad in engineering, I think; PHD from Stanford in stochastics or something like that).
But that doesn't mean you have to agree with him. It is fine to dsagree with every single thing he says.
That doesn't say a anything about your humanity---or his.
Thanks for listening to us, as an aside. I can't express how good I feel about anyone who spends their time with us. I feel truly blessed to have this hour per week with Ed and Brian and Sam and Ira. And the people who email me or call me; even those who think I am a routine idiot. I have become friends with a few of these folks and, at my age, friends and family are most of what there is.
So, thanks.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
I'm assuming this is Craig Ross, and I'd like to say that I enjoy your contributions to the show. Somebody has to be the old wise man to balance out the group. Can we call you Craig "Get off my lawn" Ross, in the most endearing way possible?
September 8th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
...it could even be unendearing I would be happy for it.
CR
September 8th, 2017 at 7:27 PM ^
Craig, listening to you and the guys is great. I love the podcast. Sometimes it's hard to hear your voice specifically, like you are sitting too far from the mic.
Also, I own your book "The Obscene Diaries of a Michigan Fan," and thought it was a great read.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
Good point.
From what it seems his numbers say and anyone says about his numbers, Ed does stats really well. Having said that, I feel like he relies on them too much and doesn't have more in-depth knowledge of the game compared to Brian or Craig Ross. That's what got him into trouble this episode. His numbers were fine, a fairly close win for Michigan. That made sense on paper, but then it seemed like he was on a mission to fit the actual results of the game into what he had predicted. A big reason for this is Sam sort of painted him in a corner (not in any malicious way) by mentioning off the bat how Ed was wrong and Brian was closer to being right.
September 8th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
Brian is more right. Numbers are abstract and there is noise within them. Ed just compares numbers to other numbers to draw a conclusion without thoughtful interpretation of what actually happened on the ground. For instance, Ed just points out 2.8 line yds per rush as an argument why Michigans offense, particuarly the line, was bad. But he doesn't understand that that number is affected by what the UF front seven was doing (aggresively attacking our OL and gaps at the point of attack) which Michigan countered with offset draws and designed cutbucks leading to chunk gains.
September 8th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^
I think the caller was right - Quinn Nordin is not the first Michigan kicker to make 2 50+ yard field goals in a single game.
"In September 1973, Lantry broke the Michigan record for longest field goal twice in the same quarter of a single football game. Nine seconds into the second quarter of a 47–10 win over Stanford, Lantry kicked a 50-yard field goal to break the school record. In the waning moments of the quarter, Lantry broke his own record by kicking a 51-yard field goal."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lantry#1973_season (includes a source to a contempory newspaper, for anyone who has archive access).
ETA: There's a thread about this on the board. Apparently, some of the more careful people either say that Nordin tied the record for number of 50 yard goals in a single game or they say that he's got the record for number of field goals for a first year kicker.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^
Thought I remembered something had changed since 1973, and this article seems to confirm: http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMAT6680Fa11/Paoletti/Assn6TJP/Assn6TJP.html
(TL;DR: NCAA narrowed the goalposts' width by nearly 5 feet in 1991.)
September 8th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
Nordin's performance was awesome by any measure, but it's probably more accurate to say that he's the first or the only one to do it since the 1991 change to the goalposts.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
Box score seems to confirm:
http://www.umich.edu/~bhlumrec/athdept/fbstats/1973stanA.pdf
(See page 3)
September 8th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^
That Defense was fantastic.
Even better, NO one in press knew it was coming.
Well Executed M.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
Appreciate the sprezzatura with my morning MGoBlog. Classy.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
Yeah, I got that too, very funny.
I'm looking forward to seeing Urbs or Dantonio's face superimposed on the Dying Gaul or similar photoshop gags in the future.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^
With the benefit of hindsight, should they have kept that in the garage until Penn State? or is it better to be able to rep it for 6 weeks in games until then?
September 8th, 2017 at 10:39 AM ^
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