Urban Meyer post-game comments

Submitted by GratefulBlue on

There's probably discussion of this buried in some other threads, but I didn't see a board topic.

Was anyone else shocked at Meyer's post-game comments and demeanor? Calling this season a "grind" and saying something along the lines of "nothing's ever good enough" . . . he seemed pretty down considering his team just beat Norte Dame in a major bowl game. Looking at what happened with him at UF, I'd be a little concerned if I were an OSU fan. That did not seem like a man who is enjoying his job.

We've all seen this season how teams can assume their coach's personalities, and OSU looked listless and disinterested most of the year. I get that they won a championship last year, but it's not like they were on an Alabama-esque tear of multiple titles in a short span. Especially compared to Harbaugh's ebullience after the Citrus Bowl, Meyer seemed like a coach on the verge of burnout. 

Brown Bear

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

I turned on that game after ours ended and in the final minutes the PBP guy, not sure who was, mentioned how they had met with him to talk that week and how tired and exhausted he looked and even mentioned him almost falling asleep at one point.



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Ghost of Fritz…

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^

...but I would not jump to any conclusions.  Probably just some off the cuff thoughtless comments in the after game interview. 

Could it signal that after 4 years at OSU he is is beginning to lose that razor edge focus?  Hopefully so.  But until I see more evidence, it probably means nothing. 

At the same time, Urban Meyer looks a lot older than his true age, and he looks older than Harbaugh, even though Harbuagh is 6 months older than Meyer. 

oriental andrew

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^

he's a perfectionist. when things aren't the way you expect them to be, perfectionists tend to get down on themselves. I would argue that Harbaugh is not a perfectionist, rather a very high achieving and goal oriented optimist. he knows there is no such thing as "perfect"

TESOE

January 2nd, 2016 at 5:56 PM ^

as well as his everyday demeanor.  The way Harbaugh takes disappointment could not be showcased any better than post MSU this year.  Every coach in the country could relate to him in that moment.  Your optimist / perfectionist take is spot on.

OSU has had a string of success and a culture that breeds this atmosphere for Meyer.  Michigan has it's own dysfunction but it's not this.  At least not now.  If ever it was... that would be a sad day.

M-Dog

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:42 AM ^

The sideline reporter brought up the MSU loss.  Meyer said he was getting better at handling losses . . . but not much.  He still looked devestated. 

You can imagine that it was quite a month in Columbus while the rabid mouth breathing OSU fanbase watched MSU barely survive close calls against OSU and Iowa to slink into the Playoffs while a clearly superior OSU team was left watching on TV.

I'm sure they were ever so gentle on their head coach and his family.

It should not be this way, but you know that this season is viewed as a failure by OSU fans.

 

mGrowOld

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^

They had a radio poll on down here last week asking which season was a bigger disapointment - the Browns at 3-12 or the Buckeyes at 11-1 because they werent playing for the NC.  And the Buckeyes "won" in a landslide - people actually viewed an 11-1 season for Ohio State as being a dissapointment greater than the absolulte mess of a pro team we have.

I'm not sure I'd take any great comfort in Meyer's post-game attitude though.  The dude is a cold-blooded killer when it comes to wanting to win (his seniors just tied the record set by Boise State for most wins over a four year period) and if anything this "disappointing" season will be fuel for him next year.

 

Engin77

January 2nd, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^

Expectations can be a terrible burden. Unanimous preseason number 1 ranking, all buckeye fans expecting a repeat by the defending National Champions. Anything less is disappointing. No one expects much from the Cleveland Browns, except perhaps a high draft pick. Expectationso suck.

buckeyejonross

January 2nd, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^

I think this skews reality a bit.

This season is judged like a failure because OSU turned a boat load of talent and a defending national championship roster into second place in its own division.

The reality of returning 90% of the starters from a run away national champion is that if you don't repeat, you failed.

Next year, the expectations will be a lot lower, and a 12-1 season would be a massive success. It's all relative to how you look at the expectations.

Let's put it this way, Michigan fans are ecstatic with the result of this season, despite losing three games and playing in the B-Dubs Bowl. If UM turns in the same record next year, you guys will be disappointed. That's just the nature of the beast.

GoWings2008

January 3rd, 2016 at 7:37 AM ^

With your roster....but what about with the coaching that roster received? Your team had a number of games, more than two, that were very marginal wins. There may have been talent there but when I see a series of close wins against the team's you played, I immediately think a team is ill prepared. Coaches have to do their part just like the players do.

gwkrlghl

January 2nd, 2016 at 12:30 PM ^

I think Urban took a huge amount of heat for that loss vs OSU. Now it was completely inexplicable and an embarassment for them, but I feel like Urban has thin skin too. Gotta be able to let some of that stuff roll off you but Urban's demeanor suggests maybe that's not his forte

Avon Barksdale

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:18 AM ^

If the burnout hasn't happened yet, it will after we beat them in Columbus next season to win the Big Ten East. Five seasons in, he'll have one B1G Championship and be ready to hit the road.

RamPride135

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^

Obviously I think there's a pretty good chance Michigan wins the east next year. I think the announcers yesterday said Urban is now 50-4 at OSU (I think that includes the win over Notre Dame). If they have another good season and lose to only Michigan, that would put Urban at around 61-5 in 5 years with only one B1G title.

Yes, there were ineligible his first season and the one year they won the conference also ended with a national championship, but that's still pretty crazy to hink about. I have to imagine that would only add to the stress. 

M-Dog

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:46 AM ^

Yes, in the sense that if he's stressed now, wait until he actually starts to lose some games to "scUM".  That's not the same thing as losing two close games to Dantonio, a former OSU asssistant that is still held in high regard in Columbus.

His fan base will go beserk on him the first time he loses to Michigan and the despised Jim harbaugh.  If I were him, I would be dreading that day too.  

Prince Lover

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^

You just got me totally pumped for the Game next year already. The Game that sent Urban packing.... Seriously though, I agree with the comment above that this will just be fuel to his competitive fire. Starting over with a new group will rejuvenate him if he in fact is getting drained, which I doubt. But it is fun to dream of an Urban-less OSU. 50-4 in his 4 years. That's crazy. Harbaugh just loss 3 and we're already talking Natty in '16. He'd have to lose 1 more game in 3 years to match that. I hate Urban as much as y'all, but that is impressive.

LDNfan

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^

The OSU situation is so unique that I'm not sure it is possible to be the HC there and not feel like its an absolute soul destroying grind.

It is a program that has had so much success in a state that is nutjob crazy about that team (and not much else). They went from one highly successful championship coach to another who carries even greater expectations without missing a beat (sans Fickles lone season). They are not supposed to lose EVER to anyone. And the team has been loaded with 5* national recruits who expect to get theirs. All of that creates a unique and interesting dynamic esp. now that he has to reload for the first time at OSU. The expectation will not change...and it could get ugly in CBus if heaven-fordid OSU should lose 2-3 games even in a rebuilding year.

PhillipFulmersPants

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^

true but the state of Ohio doesn't have the equivalent of Auburn. That's certainly something else. Can't imagine there's signifcantly more pressure in Tuscaloosa than there is in Columbus, but who knows. To me, it's splitting hairs if there is a difference.  

Biggest thing with Meyer to me -- and with Saban, too -- is that it doesn't look like they're having much fun at times.  I'm sure they love what they do most days, but from the outside, it appears there are times when all of the joy is gone from the job.  Especially Meyer, and this year there seemed to be several of those days for him.    

LDNfan

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^

No doubt Alabama is another ultra high pressure place..but there are some key differences. First, Saban didn't enter on the heels of another long-standing championship winning HC. He came in after Shuler who was a .500 coach at Bama so the immediate pressure wasn't there. He was rebuilding the program which offers some breathing room.  Also, the SEC much more openly plays fast with the rules than the B1G so IMO the expectations across the conference are a bit different. 

MonkeyMan

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:04 AM ^

You know- now that I think about it- Woody and Urban both share this crazed intensity of hating loses to the point of sickness. But they wouldn't fire Urb for hitting a kid- times have changed- he would be given a raise here in C-bus! (and some brass knuckles)

M-Dog

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^

But that's my point, Woody went beserk after the accumulated stress of losing to Michigan 3 straight times and then losing his bowl game to unheralded Clemson.  

Woody was always on the edge to begin with, and the stress at Ohio State when he started losing some games pushed him over the edge.

It's an intense environment, and if you are already an intense personality like Hayes or Meyer, it can cause you to snap.  If you are relaxed and laid back like Cooper, then they will run you out of town for not being intense enough.

evenyoubrutus

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:29 AM ^

I know this sounds like a crazy pipe dream (just like Harbaugh last September) but I really wonder if Meyer just doesn't have the steam to go at this level for this long. Can you imagine doing your job 100+ hours a week from your mid 20's all the way into your 50's? And on top of that being under a microscope by millions of fans and the media the whole time? Any other coach I wouldn't even think of this but he already seemingly burned out once when he was at UF.