Negative recruiting speculation thread
April 27th, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
sparty would be my best guess. God i hate them!!
April 27th, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^
Well, with their 0 commits so far, it ain't workin'....
April 27th, 2011 at 10:30 PM ^
Understood negative recruiting to mean getting less than zero recruits.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:41 PM ^
Don't sell Sparty short. They got a walk on long snapper. In state dominance continues......
April 27th, 2011 at 10:43 PM ^
He was in the 2011 class though.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:46 PM ^
like they don't celebrate the hell out of it.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^
Well then continue to sell them short. I am sure they are just letting us get all of the highly rated in-state clutter out of their way before they make their move.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:52 PM ^
Oh, most definitely. They're just waiting to pounce.
Sneak attack.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:48 PM ^
Guys, guys, Dantonio is just ring selective. Their recent success on the field has enabled him to carefully pick and choose the players best suited for their team. He doesn't consider such ridiculous things as star rankings. He doesn't even know what Rivals is. He picks his players directly out of the Michigan court records. "Felonious assault? We got us a linebacker!"
Not so fast, my friend...
Prison leagues don't allow their recruits to publicly announce commitments. Word from CB4 is that Coach Dantonio (aka "The Warden") has a slate of 5-shank (they use "shanks" instead of stars in the Prison League) athletes who've given silent commitments.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:59 PM ^
Someone on 247 posted that Godin was considering pushing back his announcement. He later said that Godin had re-decided to announce on May 12 as scheduled. If that was what Tom VH was referring to, I think that points to Dantonio as the obvious candidate.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:03 PM ^
If you're right about Godin, I wouldn't rule out Bielema. He's also kind of an...unpleasant individual, although I'm unsure if that transcends ordering vicious assaults on field. But Wisonsin is also in Godin's top three, and they've had a lot of success in recent history. I believe Godin was also planning on visiting or cheese-eating brethren in the future (if I remember correctly).
I'm trying to figure what would be the content on the negative recruiting...
- Mattison's age?
- Hoke's 47 - 50?
- The big house is *too* big now?
- Michigan is hard academically
- No ski masks?
For someone like Bielema, it would likely be "proven success vs. speculative situation" or "insufficient supply of cheese." My money's on the latter.
I can see Bielema doing it. He looks like a goblin.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^
It's probably against osu. Makes the most sense.
But would Tom tweet about negative recruiting against OSU? It seems like it would have to be about another school badmouthing us.
April 28th, 2011 at 12:17 PM ^
OSU is the one school, that we know from a first-hand eyewitness, was NOT negative-recruiting.
It wasn't all that long ago, that former Head Coach Rich Rich Rodriguez gave this interview, specifically exonerating OSU, within his knowledge, as a negative-recruiting team:
What is still interesting to me was that Coach Rod suggested that everyone would hear, "soon," about some of the details on negative recruiting. I suppose that he might be talking about John U. Bacon's book. Or perhaps something else. Perhaps Tom VH knows. Perhaps Tom knows about more, newer, evidence since Bacon's manuscript has gone to the publisher. Maybe another source altogether.
April 28th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
...In the Free Press! Just kidding. But wouldn't that drive you absolutely mad?
Better yet; if it was in the Free Press, written by Roesenberg and Snyder together, with nothing but anonymous sources cited, and with nothing else -- no other on-the-record sources, no other information, documents, et cetera -- would you trust that?
April 27th, 2011 at 10:35 PM ^
Are we directly recruiting anyone against Nebraska other than Peat?
April 27th, 2011 at 10:36 PM ^
a corn allergy. So we have that goin for us, which is nice...
April 28th, 2011 at 12:05 AM ^
that's one mooky mofo right there.
And between Dantonio, Bielema, Tressel, and Hope over at Purdue, there are quite a lot of unpleasant people coaching B10 teams right now, no?
Bo Pelini anf Bret Bielema were once villains in a Disney movie.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:22 PM ^
Anyone other then Osu...
April 27th, 2011 at 10:22 PM ^
The sky is blue. Also Hope is a douche. As well as Dantonio. And Pelini is mean. And JoePa is old. And Zook is an idiot. And Tressel is a liar. And Kill...well he's got a cool name.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:22 PM ^
It's like Clue! I'll start:
Who: Bret Bielema
Where: De-Vonne Bingham's house
With: An oblique reference to Jim Tressel's problems with the NCAA
April 27th, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^
I'd rather know what's being said which, of course, might shed light on who it is.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:18 PM ^
I'd just like to know who, what, where.
I have had zero doubt whatsoever that negative recruting is alive and well ever since Coach Rodriguez mentioned it.
But what I still don't understand is why this story would be so hard to report. Recruiting involves lots of guys, talking to lots of other guys, and in the end there is one "coupling" (coach/recruiter and player) and a dozen or so jilted suitors. One would think that somebody would talk, with all of those breakups.
I'm really curious about this. Why doesn't negative recruiting get outed, on a daily basis?
April 28th, 2011 at 12:06 AM ^
aren't we?
April 27th, 2011 at 10:26 PM ^
Danny Hope is tired of Tressel trashing the 'stache...
April 27th, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^
Saltiness...
April 27th, 2011 at 10:26 PM ^
recruiting Dunn today at school, right. If he was "negative recruiting", by telling him he wouldn't be playing for Tressel if he went to OSU, then I've got no problem with it. Guy is good as gone. Actually, OSU's best case scenario is that he is gone, cause if they can somehow keep him, and do, they won't be playing in a bowl game for at least 2 or 3 years.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:30 PM ^
I sort of doubt it was us doing the negative recruiting. It doesn't seem like what Hoke would want his guys to do.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:36 PM ^
I've seen comments (from other fanbases) that Mattison is a huge negative recruiter. Take it with a grain of salt.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:45 PM ^
Honestly, I think that anybody who is a good recruiter will get a reputation as a negative recruiter. And, honestly, it is probably deserved. Also, there may be subtle hints about the stability of programs in the future, and then there's Les Miles level (rumored) negative recruiting about Parkinson's.
The top recruiter at auburn is considered a good recruiter but other fan bases consider him a dirty recruiter.
In all fairness, the best recruiter at one of the dirtiest programs in the country probably is a dirty recruiter.
The transitive property of college recruiting.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:00 PM ^
To give an example?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:29 PM ^
Haven't seen any, just saw that it was his reputation to some.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:57 PM ^
is the main one you'll hear about from Domers.
Any recruiter who doesn't point out the Tressel situation to 5* tOSU recruits is simply incompetent. I doubt that Mattison is incompetent.
Oh I totally agree. He'd be totally remiss not to discuss it with Dun (or whomever).
April 27th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^
Not to be naive or anything, but is it necessarily such a bad thing to do negative recruiting? I mean, would it be awful for Mattison to meet with Dunn and say something like, "You never know what will happen to OSU down the road, with coaches and sanctions etc. Sooooo... come to Michigan" ?
April 27th, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^
That's a minefield for recruiters. These players develop relationships with the coaches that recruit them. Say Mattison says something about Coach X's job security, but Recruit Y really likes Coach X. That may be off-putting to a 17 year-old.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:34 PM ^
I certainly hope it wasn't us.. I feel like Hoke and Mattison are beyond that and can just sell UofM to kids without having to resort to bashing other schools.