Spielman and Herbstreit comments....
From the DetNews:
"So, what's being said in Columbus about Saturday's annual rivalry game between No. 10 Ohio State (9-2, 6-1 Big Ten) and Michigan (3-8, 2-5)?
Here are excerpts of the conversation that took place Monday on WBNS 1460 AM's "The Big Show," hosted by Bruce Hooley. He was joined by former Ohio State players Kirk Herbstreit and Chris Spielman, now both analysts for ESPN.
Spielman: "Anybody that played in that game understands what that game is and how special it is. For Michigan, I think it's vital for them because they have absolutely nothing. I admit when I'm wrong -- I was wrong about Michigan winning four games. I think they're going to win three."
Herbstreit: "Yeah, I can see a three touchdown win (by Ohio State). I'm the first guy, just like (Spielman), to say, 'Hey, this game's a rivalry, it's special, you never know, expect the unexpected.' Not this year. I think Ohio State will go in, they'll be motivated, they'll be ready, they'll be hyped-up, the stadium will be hyped-up. And for Michigan, I don't even know, are they saying they're gonna come in and shock the world? Are they saying things like that?"
Spielman: "This team has no confidence, man. They're dead men walking."
Herbstreit: "I think they're just looking forward to getting the season over and hitting the recruiting road."
Spielman: "I don't think it's going to be close. They're not very good. The problem Michigan has is they know they're not very good, and the coaches know they're not very good, and the fans know they're not very good."
Herbstreit: "They're a tough watch, watching that outfit. This is a great example of why I like to see Michigan be a very good, very competitive team. They're 3-8 on their way to 3-9. And this is like the year somebody told you (the truth) about Santa Claus. This is like taking all the wind out of the sails.
"I know it's still Ohio State-Michigan, and when the teams run onto the field, it's still special, but this is just anti-climatic. (Michigan is) going to run onto the field, and 'Booooooo!' Who you booing? They're 3-8.
"If they didn't have to be there, they wouldn't be there. They're sorry they have to be there. They don't want to be. They're going to take the game, get it over with and get out of there."
Spielman: "I love seeing them beaten down. It's not our fault Michigan's bad. What do you want us to do, give 'em some of our players to make it fair? They're not holding up their end of the bargain. It's on them."
Herbstreit: "I understand that, it's on them. But the rivalry is built upon the game meaning so much to both sides. When I think about being a little kid and watching that game, I think of great Ohio State and great Michigan teams, and that's the way I wish it was every year."
Spielman: "I wish it was, too, but they screwed up. They had to go and mess it up. They got their dirty maize-and-blue hands on it, they screwed it up."
November 18th, 2008 at 12:27 PM ^
end of the bargain up...kinda like, oh i don't know...OHIO STATE did for about 12 years before Tressel came in.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:31 PM ^
There is a difference, though. OSU was still a very very good football team under John Cooper. They were never as awful as we are right now, nor did they have as much uncertainty about their program as we appear to have.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:34 PM ^
Jay, I bet you're a really good guy, but I'm starting to believe you aren't actually a Michigan fan because everything you say is negative. Are you going to cheer for the buckeyes this weekend?
November 18th, 2008 at 12:51 PM ^
being possitive about a head coach that I wasn't doing cartwheels over when he was hired, WolvinLA. I can't sit here and feign excitement about a program that I have some reservations about the direction it is going in right now.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:21 PM ^
That's fair. I'm just giving you a hard time. No worries.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:47 PM ^
They were always a very strong outfit, and very often favored against us. He just couldn't beat Michigan (or Illinois).
November 18th, 2008 at 12:42 PM ^
how Ohio State NEVER EVER had a losing season before, right Jay?
November 18th, 2008 at 9:57 PM ^
Weird year. In their first three games, they beat two bowl teams (LSU and Syracuse) but got hammered 42-10 by a 6-5 Pitt team and 41-7 by Indiana (8-4). They hung on to a 13-6 win over a terrible Minnesota team (2-7-2), but came back from a 20-0 halftime deficit against Michigan and nearly pulled off an upset.
So not as bad as we are, but not too far removed.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:29 PM ^
Meh. *shrug*
November 18th, 2008 at 12:35 PM ^
looks like an asshole, and sounds like an asshole, and smells like an asshole... Chances are it's wearing Scarlet and Gray.
MAN... I DO NOT LIKE THOSE GUYS.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:56 PM ^
this was said on a radio station in Columbus. They would not be saying this on ESPN. You would hear the same thing from Mike Hart on WDFN or 97.1. Does not mean a thing.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:58 PM ^
Kirk's only game as a starter against Michigan ended in a 13-13 tie and OSU was 0-3 the other games during his career. Spielman was a whoping 2-2 against the Maize and Blue during his tenure. Enough said...
November 18th, 2008 at 1:09 PM ^
I would really like to see tressel try to win more than 3 games with Threet/Sheridan as the starting qb. That would be pretty funny.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:37 PM ^
in regards to the difference between ohio st. and mich this year the one stat that jumps out in big ten play has been turnovers.currently ohio st. is +11, while mich. is -4.do the math.that's a 15 turnover difference over 7 games. 2.13 more turnovers per big ten game.so obviously win the turnover battle, a litle bit of luck on special teams, play as well as purdue's defense(can be done), and u have a winning formula.not as far-fetched a scenario as what came out of these 2 clowns. MICHIGAN 20 OHIO ST. 16
November 18th, 2008 at 1:47 PM ^
Ahem: meh.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:03 PM ^
Maybe Spielman has forgotten that he wanted to go to Michigan before his redneck daddy told him he'd basically be dead if he didn't go to tO$U.
Once a moron always a moron.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:16 PM ^
Aren't they both gay?
From unedited photos |
November 18th, 2008 at 2:24 PM ^
In a day of bad news, that really helped. Thanks you mspeters. +100
November 18th, 2008 at 4:42 PM ^
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081118/SPORTS0201/8…
Same station in Columbus.