Rivals is pretty full of itself
So I have been a member of rivals for almost six years now and I posted this morning that this Blog had confirmed a MROB commitment. The mods went off the deep end, took down my post, and banned one of their first members for five hours. I guess the policy is, if they aren't the first one to find out about a commit, then it's not really a commit until they "confirm" it. All I have to say is WOW! Their job consists entirely of reporting where 17 year olds want to go to college and they are that defensive. Sheesh!
whenever they get scooped by scout they do that
It is all about responsibility and reliability. When you post something not reported by them, it is like make a report of your own. They have not had the news confirmed yet by Mrob himself. It could be a false report or a simple misunderstanding of a conversation. They have to keep their reputation for reliability and cannot let false news exist on their site. Although banning you is a lil over the edge. They should just take down the post
Or hire me and Paulie to go put them in a trash compactor???
There's been a few times when Rivals has scooped Scout on a commit and every time they do Scout immediately puts up a post on their main page questioning the validity of it and to wait for them to get the real scoop. IIRC last year, Rivals got a direct quote from Mike Jones saying he committed and Scout went off how his uncle said he hadn't heard about it yet (apparently a quote from his uncle triumphs a direct quote from the kid).
Also, "this blog" didn't "confirm" MRob committing. All someone did was post a link to Scout, who technically also hasn't "confirmed" the news with Robinson himself. They still have a teaser up that just says "a source close" to Robinson informed them. I'm not saying they're wrong, but until it comes out of Robinson's mouth, I can understand why Rivals would pull your post since there's no official word to back up the claim and they are probably working on getting that.
They were scooped on the Paulus info, as well. I do remember that they were right all along on the Les Miles to Michigan rumor.
All I have seen is a link to the Scout article. That may be why they got mad.
Or did I miss a TomVH post?
This blog does not report the news or do investigative journalism. It is this clear line people need to realize about blogs usually. That is going to be the problem when the papers go under. Rivals hasn't gotten confirmation and they are a lot more selective on their reporting than scout.
And blogs will step into the void. Duh.
that its necessarily about "scooping" each other. Those sites have a (gentleman's?) agreement not to allow their users to post the other's premium information on their site.
I guess you can take issue with where they draw the line with that, but its not like they're ignoring it. They just aren't letting every Tom, Dick and Harry announce it to the world until they've confirmed it.
Scout cracks me up. It's like their boards are run by a bunch of sixth graders. You can't refer to Rivals as Rivals, you must call it "TOS" (The Other Site) even though EVERYONE knows who the other site is. Anything Brian posts is unreliable (i.e. when he heard Zirbel was out for the season and Scout's board went off on how unreliable he is and how Zirbel will only be out for a few weeks, and, of course, their response to everything on the free board is to "get premium"...then we saw who was really right!).
When Rivals broke Mike Jones committing, it was "get premium" and you'd know the inside scoop, then after the fact some posters claim they "knew about it three weeks ago" yet they're like the same ones freaking out over getting scooped (not to mention their own teaser questioned it since his uncle hadn't heard...yeah, really sounds like they knew it about it three weeks ago). Anytime they get scooped their only comeback is "get premium and you would know!" to try and save face.
Heck, sometimes they won't even let word of a commit be posted on their free board until after it gets posted elsewhere on the internet, like the news is suppose to be so super secret that no one is suppose to know about it. I guess they haven't heard about this thing called the Internet yet and how it works. Sometimes I read it for the entertaining crap like that. It's sadly hilariously entertaining.
Where I do take issue is when people post on those boards attributing stuff to Brian that isn't true, like the original post in this thread claims MGoBlog "confirmed" MRob, when that isn't true and then his name gets dragged through the mud because the message board posters don't bother to read what Brian REALLY posted, just what someone claims he posted.
The sites always do their own confirmation before posting anything. During the Miles thing, IIRC, Scout reported that Miles was a done deal, and Rivals pulled the NSFMF.
reference, one website linking to another in no way confirms anything.
I don't get all the genuflecting to Rivals and Scout. If RR or Belien offer a kid they must think he will help their program. I have more faith in their opinions than the recruiting services. I view scout and rivals as useful tools but not the final word on a kids value and it befuddles me when people source them as gospel.
I agree with you that if RR and staff offer a guy, they must think he's worthy. However, there are degrees to how worthy they are. Some guys that RR offers he thinks are going to be total studs, and some guys he offers he simply thinks that they are good enough and feel that they are worth an offer. There is a difference, thus we look to other sources to help us figure that out.
Also, it's always good to get a second opinion. RR is wrong sometimes, he's human. It's nice to see that other sources who have experience evaluating talent agree with him. When they disagree, it doesn't mean the kid will be bad, but there's probably less of a chance that he's a star.
I like the 2nd and 3rd opinions also but rate them secondary to the staffs opinion.
It seems also they rate on pro potential too much and not the impact a player will have in college. Tate or DROB may not have NFL talent at the QB position but either and Tate specifically may be more ready to play College QB than say a pro style player. Pat White awesome College QB but limited as a NFler.
FWIW, Rivals deletes any mention of or link to the blog they see. And they're always touchy about stuff like that. I'm not surprised your post got deleted. They're not wrong in this instance: no reportage came from here, just people linking to the scout report.
OTOH, when original reportage does come from here they trash it, so yeah. It's mostly Balas, IIRC.