(Recruiting) Star Wars: Eagles are far "better" than Patriots

Submitted by robpollard on

As we debate and debate our current recruiting class, and its relative bevy of three-stars, I thought this recent SB Nation article was interesting.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2018/1/23/16920720/super-bowl-2018-patriots-eagles-high-school-recruiting-ratings

To sum up: the Pats team is dominated by 3 stars, with only 1 five-star (Malcolm Brown) and only 4 four-stars (incl the incomparable Tom Brady).

In contrast, the Eagles are much more slanted towards the top end, with 5 five-stars (including the awesome Brandon Graham) and 7 four-stars.

This does not prove recruiting rankings don't matter (it is of course better, on average, to have on your team five-stars instead of a three-stars, Kevin Grady and Mike Hart notwithstanding, as predictor of success in both college, not to mention the NFL), but it is interesting that the most dominant franchise in the last 25 years of pro football does not lean on "can't miss" players nearly as much as you might think.

unWavering

January 24th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^

I know recruiting rankings matter (for college), but do they really matter for the NFL?  We're talking about players who were evaluated at least 4 years ago, and many more than that in a lot of cases.  A lot can happen in that time frame.

Stringer Bell

January 24th, 2018 at 1:08 PM ^

I mean, if we're being honest the Patriots roster outside of a few players isn't all that good.  Brady makes up for a lot of deficiencies on that team.  So yeah, I suppose if you have the greatest QB of all time on your team then starz don't really matter.

ThatTCGuy

January 24th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^

Yup. People like to act like the Pats have this super stacked roster, but in actuality, only a few dudes on NE would even start for the Eagles: TB, Gronk, Cooks, Gilmore, and McCourty. Belichick knows that, for the most part, he can find guys off the scrap heap, plug them into key spots, and TB will make them into stars. It's a major reason why he's the GOAT.

JamieH

January 24th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^

By the time they get to the NFL, who cares how many "stars" some recruiting guy gave them in high school?   Do companies recruit you based on a 4-5 year old SAT test score?

NFL teams are looking at film/production in college.  They couldn't care less what players did against high school competition, nor should they. 

butuka21

January 24th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^

Sweet here is the difference the pats have Tom Brady. You can win with 3 stars but your qb better be the man. The qb has been the problem for Michigan.
Besides that in college they do matter. The trophy holders every year make that a fact.

trustBlue

January 24th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^

Starz become an increasingly less valauble predictor of success as you get further and further from a player's junior year in high school.  

Less than 50% of the supposedly "can't miss" 5* star recruits end up eventually being drafted by an NFL team. Sure, that's a much better percentage than 4 or 3 stars, but there are only 15-20 5* ranked recruits per year and over 224 draft picks. With only 15-20 five stars, you would expect them all to be first or second round locks - instead half of them don't get drafted AT ALL. 

Then by the time you start talking about becoming a key player on a championship football team - players who are 10 years away from their high school rankings, there are too many variables to predict future success for any individual player with such a wide range of possible outcomes (injuries, work ethic, weight gain, height gain, depth chart, position switches, etc.)

It would be like trying to predict people's salaries based on their SAT scores - sure its probably true that higher SAT scores are slightly correlated with future salary in the aggregate, but if you walked into a specific company and looked at their highest paid employees, you'll probably find that little correlation to SAT scores.