I'm sure they sell out and do well, but it just seems like quite a bit of money for a sport that has limited appeal and a media and advertising structure that strays from more high-revenue sports like football and basketball.
the internet said the Red Wings are getting them both.
A $7.5 million cap hit isn't really that crazy for some of the best players in hockey...
Wow...
Honestly, I wanted Suter more than Parise, but after seeing those deals, I'm OK with neither of them being with the Wings.
Go after Nash and Bouwmeester. Nash has 6 years left, and Bouwmeester has 2. The combined contracts are less than Suter/Parise combined. Bouwmeester's value is really low right now so I think he could be had for cheap, but his skillset is one that could thrive in the Wings system.
Wouldn't mind Keith Yandle either, but I think he would be tougher to get than Bouwmeester.
Out of curiosity, how do you know Columbus' asking price?
Anyway, Franzen is locked down to 8 more years at almost $4 per, is 32, and has never played a full NHL season. The most points Franzen has scored in a season is 59.
Filppula is the most frusterating player on the Wings. Last year was the first year he's truely had a really good season, but with signing Helm to a big deal, along with Filppula's expiring contract, makes Filppula expendable. Combined, their contracts would be $6.9, while Nash's contract is $7.8. So you get rid of Frazen's horrible contract, and still have almost $16 mil in cap space. Paying $2.15 mil per season for Helm, that contract is not 4th line money. He's going to have to move to the 3rd line center.
As far as Nyquist, and Smith goes, that's expected. The Wings are going to have to give up prospects is any deal. The thing is no one truely knows how good these guys will be.
And draft picks? Honestly, the Wings haven't really hit on any of their top picks so far in the past few years. They do better late in the draft. Can't really say anything about Frk, or Jurko, but here's the past few top picks since Smith in 2007:
2010 - Sheahan
2009 - Ferraro
2008 - McCollum
All three have actually declined. I wouldn't be opposed at all to the Wings getting rid of their top draft pick(s).
Honestly, if the Blue Jackets want Franzen, I would jump at the offer. If Franzen could put together an entire season with a clean bill of health, I think he would have one of the most team friendly contracts in the game considering Hudler just go $4 mil per year. Problem is Franzen is on the wrong side of 30, and is locked up untl 40. I just don't see him being healthy for the next 8 years. Detroit would get Nash, who is 4 years younger, and his contract expires when he's 34. There's a lot of upside all around with Nash and his contract.
Any trade for Nash is going to involve Smith which is just asking way to much. He's gonna be a solid Defenceman, and if we trade him then we would have 4 guys under contract. As for Nash? If we're going to trade for offense I would rather go after Bobby Ryan. He's younger, probably easier to get, and I believe is more talented.Like I've written before, for #RedWings to get Rick Nash, would take comb. of Filppula, Franzen, prospects like Smith, Nyquist, plus picks.
— Helene St. James (@HeleneStJames) July 4, 2012
While Bobby Ryan is a solid player, he is nowhere near the level of Nash. Nash was a top forward on Team Canada. I'm not even sure Bobby Ryan makes the roster for Team Canada. I agree it's not worth it to give up all those players for him but if we are talking talent, I take Rick Nash 100 times out of 100 over Bobby Ryan.
But at this point no way you trade Brandon Smith unlesss you get a top 4 d-man back in return. Without Lidstrom and Stuart our D is looking rough. Thank god Holland traded for Quincey cause there is not much on the FA market...
I understand where you are coming from, but do you really think the Wings are a contender without making a really big move? We were a pretty bad team at the end of last year, AND we lost Nick Lidstrom.
I think the Wings are a 5-6 seed again without any moves, which is fine. But if we want to contend we have to get a guy like Nash. Losing Nyquist would hurt, but I'm fine with shipping Franzen's arse out.
Think the wings new focus will be on signing Matt Carle and Carlo Colaiacovo. Both are solid defensemen. Another name you might want to look into is Alexander Semin who if he improves work ethic is a better pure scorer than Zach Parise.
I doubt they would ever trade him but I think Alex Pietrangelo from the Blues is probably one of the best Dmen would could acquire. He's 22 years old, has good size(6'4), and is a solid defender and moves the puck well. I would guess that the Blues need some depth scoring, but I don't know what price if any they'd request for their top D.
IMO Karlsson and Letang aren't that great at playing actual defense. Doughty is excellent, possibly the best in the league when he's 100 percent, but I doubt the Kings would move him seeing as he is basically their franchise player and they just won the cup.
Weber or bust at this point. How else do you even remotely replace Lidstrom now?
Lightning sign Matt Carle. Panic time has started for the Wings
That's never going to be accepted here. After 21 seasons of success you think the team is just going to fall to the bottom? Plus what is 1 player going to do?
worked for Pittsburgh after Lemieux retired...
The blueline is looking scary at the moment. Only five signed defensemen on the roster. If Holland doesn't sign a top four defenseman then we are going to be cycling two way players with the griffins all season.
tanking was accepted during the dead wings era...
Yeah, so ummm maybe Holland and Illitch can go to where ever the hell Lidstrom is chilling right now and beg him to come out of retirement