Hash Marks in NFL vs. CFB

Submitted by Baugh So Har on September 25th, 2019 at 3:14 PM

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/9/7/20851532/nfl-college-football-differences-hash-marks-defense-pressure

Interesting read. For someone who used to find college football more exciting, I feel like the NFL has become more interesting because not every team is trying to run the same offense.

Was wondering how much the Board thinks the NCAA's wider hash marks (and less balanced fields of play) have correlated with the success of the spread in college, or if it just has to do with the talent level. Yes some NFL offenses have begun incorporating elements of the zone-read/RPO, but certainly not to the same extent. Not sure if moving the hash marks inward would make the college game better, by forcing offenses to try different schemes, or if it would create too much of an advantage for defenses at the expense of young quarterbacks. Thoughts?

Reggie Dunlop

September 25th, 2019 at 3:26 PM ^

"I feel like the NFL has become more interesting because not every team is trying to run the same offense."

We've played Middle Tennessee, Army and Wisconsin. None of them are anything alike. 

bluinohio

September 25th, 2019 at 3:31 PM ^

The NFL is getting more exciting because the offenses are looking more like college. I don't watch much though, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

MGoBlue96

September 25th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^

This is my line of thinking, I'm not sure how someone like's the Chiefs offense is not a "college" style offense. They use Air Raid concepts and RPOs as a basis for their offense. I thought the whole thing with Mahomes was that people were saying instead of making him fit to a pro offense the  Chiefs simply created a college like offense around his skills instead.  But like you I don't watch much NFL so I may have know idea what the hell I am talking about. And I still find watching the NFL to just be boring in comparison.

CRISPed in the DIAG

September 25th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

Outside of watching Michigan, I generally prefer random pro football games as opposed to random college games. The NFL has always been a "copycat" league. I don't have any science or data to suggest that the style of play in college is one thing or the other, but we're at a sweet spot now where there is some variation between NFL teams and offensive approaches. While KC/Mahomes features heavy spread concepts, the Patriots win lately with more power. 

 

Tuebor

September 25th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^

Interesting read.

 

I guess that is why QBs are better in the NFL... Either you can read an NFL defense at the speed of the game or you can't and it becomes apparent very quickly.

micheal honcho

September 26th, 2019 at 11:46 AM ^

 In the past I've posted about this hash mark issue in regards to how it affects offensive scheme in HS, CFB vs. NFL.

It makes a difference. The NFL's "balanced" field(closer hash marks) means that offenses cannot unbalance a D nearly as much.  That's why NFL QB's aren't lining up in formation and looking to the sideline for the call. I wont work. The D can always maintain a state of balance(same #'s of persons on both sides of the centerline) with ease and without opening up vast expanses of real estate.

HS is the most extreme, its hash marks are the furthest apart and its players are the slowest. That's why spread systems are the by far the most successful at the HS level. Which has propagated the "put your best athlete at QB" theme we see now. With NFL hash marks in HS, I think Devin Gardner is a WR from the go. Why? because its ultimately more common to find a kid that can throw the ball and is an OK athlete then to find physical freaks like Devin. The old saying "you can't teach speed". If its not such a huge advantage to have speed at the QB spot(NFL) then you certainly wouldn't waste the speed you have at that position. The NFL hash marks negate some of the advantage a fast QB gives you in HS and CFB.