Funny take on ND vs. Michigan rivalry from ND fan. (Note: Might be a repost from prior to the season, still a good laugh)

Submitted by Umich19 on May 18th, 2019 at 5:36 PM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/terencemoore/2018/08/29/michigan-needs-notre-dame-in-football-more-than-the-other-way-around/amp/

Before you say it... Yes this is my third post of the day!and overall.  Spring term is very slow in Ann Arbor needless to say. I’m on a frenzy and I can’t be stopped!!! But actually I’m done after this post.

DelhiWolverine

May 18th, 2019 at 5:57 PM ^

The idiot author of this article makes his case that Notre Dame is Michigan’s biggest rival because we set our attendance record when they played at Michigan Stadium. 

What a self-absorbed ass. The world does not revolve around Notre Dame. This guy strikes me as the Andy Dwyer of Notre Dame. 

Umich19

May 18th, 2019 at 7:07 PM ^

That was the part that killed me. Completely ignored the obvious. In 2011, the lights had just been completed, and a September rivalry game was the perfect opportunity to play our first night game. We played MSU on the road in 2011 and as we all know OSU is at noon. Nebraska was the only other plausible option.  Additionally, I remember at the time Brandon wanted to play night games only every other year. Thus in 2013, given the success of the first night game and the Nebraska game in November (November night games not allowed), ND was the only option.

Mike Hammerstein '66

May 18th, 2019 at 7:00 PM ^

Actually, you are the only one who cares about stupid stuff like all-time records, especially when we count a win that happened in 1887 before ND even had a team. Nobody gives a crap about games played before cars were invented and the Civil War was barely in the rearview mirror.  

Only desperate people pull out crap like that because they have nothing to answer for the fact that ND has won the last two meetings and we haven't beaten them since 2013. 

xtramelanin

May 18th, 2019 at 7:24 PM ^

only desperate people would masquerade as my old college friend hammer.  please pick another hobby besides trolling rival boards.  maybe painting toy soldiers would be good for you?  

Rose Bowl

May 18th, 2019 at 8:36 PM ^

Not only does Michigan lead the all time series they also have more all time wins and have a better winning percentage than Notre Dame.  In college football being the winningest team ever matters.  Notre Dame trails Michigan.

Frank Chuck

May 19th, 2019 at 1:17 AM ^

Does the all-time wins matter?

I suppose it's a matter of opinion...

This may perhaps be an unpopular opinion but I would trade 100 of those pre-World War 2 wins for 10 legit MNCs starting with Schembechler to now...

 

Yes, I'm jealous of Miami's 5 MNCs since 1983 and Alabama's 12 MNCs since Bear Bryant.

Harbs

May 18th, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^

You can keep all-time records but it is a really dumb measure of comparison.  The game that was played between 1870-1930 wasn't even football as we know it today, it was basically rugby.

Alabama has a much better all-time record than Clemson but when Clemson beats Alabama in the Natty, you don't see Saban standing at the podium saying, "Oh yeah, well we beat Clemson 8 times in a row between 1892-1900 and have a much better winning percentage".  

UM has more wins in the all-time series over Ohio State but Michigan hasn't really owned the series since before Hitler was in power.  If Ohio State hadn't hired John Cooper they may well have owned the record by now.

Hell, Army is 5-4 all-time vs. Michigan.  Do you consider Army the better team?  Of course not.

Toledo is undefeated vs. Michigan all-time.  Is Toledo the better program?  

Appalachian St. is .500 lifetime vs. Michigan.  I guess that means Michigan and App State rank the same all time huh?

 

 

 

 

RustyCleats

May 19th, 2019 at 11:50 PM ^

I will admit some very exciting games have come at the hands of Notre Dame. Notre Dame owes it's football existence to Michigan. What a spoiled child. What a narcissist view. Bo had it right: "The hell with Notre Dame". We certainly don't need them.