Examining Michigan's possible (barring extreme chaos) bowl games and opponents.
There is an extremely miniscule chance Michigan somehow makes the playoff (all three of the following would have to likely have to happen: Clemson loses to Virginia Tech, Colorado beats Washington, Penn State beats Wisconsin in a very flukey way by a razor thin margin. Oklahoma winning over Oklahoma State by a very small/flukey margin helps as well).
However, realistically we have two possible destinations: the Orange Bowl in Miami, Florida (likely) or the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.
Rose Bowl:
What needs to happen:
- Two Big Ten teams must make the playoff. Michigan is guaranteed to be at worst the third highest ranked Big Ten team (we will be ahead of the loser of the title game given their third loss and our head to head victory). The Rose Bowl takes the Big Ten Champion if they are not in the playoff, otherwise they take the highest ranked team from the Big Ten. Ohio State is very likely in the playoff, but if they somehow fall to #5 they will be in the Rose Bowl over us.
- Washington must beat Colorado. The funny thing about this is that it makes the point above less likely to happen, as the Huskies are going to be in the Top 4 if they win in Santa Clara this Friday night. However, Colorado has next to no chance of going to the playoff, and if they beat Washington they are guaranteed a spot in the Rose Bowl as the PAC 12 Champion. They will not play a rematch of a regular season game given they have other options for where to put Michigan.
- Therefore, Clemson likely needs to lose to Virginia Tech to eliminate the ACC from the playoff if the Wolverines are going to end up in Pasadena.
We would play:
- USC is the only option here. If Washington wins, they're in the playoff and if Colorado is playing in the Rose Bowl, Michigan won't be. The Trojans are poised to be ranked right around #10 in the country, as they finish with a 9-3 record (with a road win over Washington); Southern California is on a 7 game winning streak. They were blown out by Alabama in the season opener in Dallas, lost on the final play of the game at Utah and were beaten by a sizable margin on the road against Stanford.
Orange Bowl:
If any of the above scenarios above fail, we are very likely in the Orange Bowl. (Most scenarios have us here). However, what is interesting is who we could play because the ACC is an absolute mess with zero 10-2 teams and three 9-3 teams behind Clemson:
- Florida State finished 9-3 and is poised to be the highest ranked 9-3 ACC team. They are currently ranked #15 and just blew out the #12 team (Florida). They also have the largest fanbase (tickets and TV ratings) of the three possible teams and are local within the state.
- Louisville also finished 9-3 and absolutely destroyed the Seminoles; the problem is that they are on a 2 game losing streak, both to unranked opponents, one of which was at home. Also, the Cardinals have by far the smallest football fanbase of the three options. But they will cry outrage if FSU is slotted over them given they won by a score of 63-20.
- Virginia Tech also finished 9-3, won the ACC Coastal and will play Clemson in the ACC Championship game. The Hokies did not play either Louisville or Florida State. If they lose to Clemson this seems unlikely, but who really knows. If they beat Clemson, it's also hard to know. They would still likely be ranked below the Tigers and the Orange Bowl does NOT have conference champion guarantees like the Rose does.
- Clemson. If the Tigers lose to Virginia Tech they will be the highest ranked ACC team and Michigan vs. Clemson would be a "what could have been in the playoff" marketing draw. The winner of that game would finish at worst #5 in the nation (higher if a playoff team has an MSU-esque performance).
Where would you prefer to play and against who? What do you think will happen with the mess that is the top of the ACC?
November 27th, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^
Right now the Rose Bowl is the only thing I'm remotely interested in and most likely wouldn't watch us in any other. Just where I'm at right now.
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We cannot play the SEC in the Orange Bowl. ACC is given a spot automatically.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:35 AM ^
USC is one of the hottest teams in the country right now.
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November 27th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^
with Darnold at QB. Kid is a redshirt freshman playmaker who has vastly improved as has USC over two months. They have a lot of talent. Personally would rather not play them at their second home right now. Pulling for Colorado to muddy up the waters next week since we beat them.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:50 AM ^
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hire will impact any UM targets.
November 27th, 2016 at 12:04 PM ^
Yeah but we have some big recruits out on the West Coast. Tufele, Harris, Hicks, Aaron Banks, Holmes. They'd be watching.
November 27th, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 10:41 AM ^
Margin matters. If the Nittany Lions beat Wisconsin easily (especially by more than we beat the Badgers on our home field) the playoff committee will not leave them out for us given their 11th win and conference championship.
It sucks, but it's reality.
November 27th, 2016 at 10:44 AM ^
The Penn State/Wisconsin matchup will be great. Should make the Big Ten a ton of money.
November 27th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^
Sorry, but that's a JV game compared to what we saw yesterday.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
Just tell me, how the fuck does a two-loss PSU, which we fucking annhialated, get put above Michigan in anything?
November 27th, 2016 at 4:31 PM ^
Because they didn't lose to OSU on 3 turnovers when they had them on the ropes, and they didn't step on their dicks against a very beatable Iowa.
Penn State in the Big Ten championship game and possibly in the CFP is our fault.
We have nobody to blame but ourselves.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:56 AM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^
Great is a little strong, if I had the chance to write it over I might have used good. I do think it will be a good game. I wouldn't change the part about making the Big Ten money.
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November 27th, 2016 at 11:58 AM ^
Winning your division or conference is not a criteria. They're supposed to select the 4 best teams. Even if PSU wins the B1G I don't think anyone oustide of Happy Valley will actually think they're a better team than OSU or Michigan. But who the hell knows what will happen.. I think we're destined for the Orange Bowl against FSU.
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November 27th, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^
but maybe we just have to face the fact that this system will very often put a team in the 4th or even 3rd playoff spot that really is not among the best 4.
This is a byproduct of split conferences with conference CC games.
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November 27th, 2016 at 4:34 PM ^
Harbaugh in the Rose Bowl against USC would be nice to see.
November 27th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^
When you lose a shot at a national title in the last game of the season, you are going to lose your bowl game. There are so many examples of this.
November 27th, 2016 at 11:09 AM ^
November 27th, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^
That is one of the absolute dumbest things I have read this weekend, and I have read some really stupid shit in the last 18 hours.
November 27th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^
Michigan loses in 2006. They lose the bowl game to USC.
2008 Alabama 12-0 loses to Fla in the SEC title game. They lose to Utah in the bowl game.
2013 Alabama "Kick 6". Enough said. Oklahoma puts 45 on them in the bowl game in New Orleans.
I'd find more but my wife keeps calling me from across the house.
November 27th, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^
What about Ohio State 2015 after losing to MSU?
November 27th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^
They crushed us before the bowl game.
It's not quite as predictive as Jlw makes it out to be, but it does happen a lot. Teams that don't really want to be in their bowl games play like they just want to go home.
Especially when you are matched up with a non-glamorous opponent that is just not that interesting.
November 27th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^
November 27th, 2016 at 11:38 AM ^
Two best recruits on the team are from NJ. I must have missed that Jersey bowl game.
November 27th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^
I kept saying that the Iowa loss was a big deal, but people kept throwing out this false bravado "If we don't win in Columbus we don't deserve to go to the CFP."
That's bullshit. We are as deserving as any team they are going to send now.
We blew it and opened the door for Penn State to possibly go to the CFP.
How's that for "deserving"?
November 27th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^
I was still up at about 2 AM last night moping around the house and I suddenly became more upset about the Iowa game than yesterday's game because it seems like, in another scenario, we still have a decent shot at the CFP if we win that game. No guarantees, to be sure, but a probable shot rather than virtually no hope, which is where I am at now.
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