OSU to 'wildcat formation?'
I heard OSU is switching to the 'Wildcat' offense. Is this true? Its a run-heavy, spread option offense.
I bet Pryor is having nightmares. Wishing he would have went to Michigan now and learn under the godfather himself(Rich Rod). He went to OSU because he wanted to be in a pro style offense.
It is not merely stats. It is also not just stats. Furthermore, it is not stats alone. And, if I may be so bold, it is not strictly stats.
1) Pryor is an awesome athlete.
2) Pryor put up great stats during his freshman year.
3) Some people aren't that impressed.
4) This year will be a much better barometer of future success (IMO based on TP having a new supporting cast and a year under his belt).
I don't know how much more clearly I can explain myself. I'm not saying he's not good. I'm not saying he wasn't productive. Quite the opposite. But when someone isn't impressed all anyone can do is cite stats. There are other variables. That is all I'm trying to get across. That is what you got across when discounting Brennen (and rightly so).
If it were just stats, as I pointed out above, 2004 UM had more offensive production than 2008 OSU with one less game. OSU also had Jr. Beanie and an NFL-bound receiving corp. Is anyone going to be so bold and say that the 2004 UM team was better just based on stats?
For the record, I am looking forward to seeing how he progresses. Of course, I want UM to beat OSU, but I would like to see what happened to the guy who got away.
I'll agree he had a great year, but only for the circumstances he was in. This year those numbers go out the window. He'll be THE GUY this year and will be counted on to run ALL aspects of the offense. His O-line is between worse and the same. His receiver corps take a step back. I'm sure he'll do OK, he has obvious talent. However, I think he'll be hard pressed to repeat last year's performance. Remember, for a large part of last year, even his own coach didn't have him as the "first choice" to be the passing QB, DESPITE his stupendous passer rating.
As for Tate, I'd take him over Pryor too. I think it'll be a rough up/down year for him, as it would be for most true freshman. However, I think he'll end up having better second year numbers than Pryor. I think he's better suited for the offense around him than Pryor is.
Remember, for a large part of last year, even his own coach didn't have him as the "first choice" to be the passing QB, DESPITE his stupendous passer rating.
That's patently untrue. Boeckman started the first three games, then was pulled for Pryor full-time after the USC game. From that point on, he threw a single pass vs. Troy, 9 in mop-up duty against Minny, 2 in mop-up against Northwestern, and 3 in mop-up against us. So, basically, after Pryor was named starter, Boeckman didn't take a single meaningful pass until the bowl game.
If you're going to say things, make sure they're actually true, dude.
that Pryor was thought of as the better passer, "dude". I didn't relate anything to their playing time, perhaps you missed that.
The "truth" is that OSU didn't need a big passing game through most of the season, as Pryor's legs/scramble & throw were enough. You could say Pryor didn't throw any "meaningful passes" after the USC game either. I remember most everytime OSU needed a big play, it came via him running.
Funny how when it became "important", like say a bowl game, Tressel was sooooooo impressed by Pryor's season-long body of passing work, that even he didn't see the need for Boeckman... oops.
Revisionist history is fun.
Now people are saying that they'd rather have Tate Forcier (the #8 dual-threat QB) than Terrelle Pryor (the #1 player overall).
So in a hypothetical world where the 2008 and 2009 classes were combined, Tate Forcier should be the #1 recruit overall instead of Pryor...OR...Terrelle Pryor should be the #9 dual-threat QB in the country.
Few if any, can honestly say they didn't want TP. However, I do think it's reasonable to change your mind, after viewing a year's work on TP's part.
Don't get me wrong, would we have been better off this past year? YES. Would we be better off this year? YES. However, I also think a lot of people were under the assumption that TP was THE uber-dual threat, and I think that a lot of people have since changed their opinion on that. He had an awesome year statiscally, but I don't think it will translate into the TRUE "passing" threat (as in able to be heavily relied upon in downfield situations) we all thought he would be.
This board and the M community in general have bemoaned a fear of our passing game disappearing too much, and I think many realize that it could've been realized if TP came on board. I think some see more "promise" in Tate in this regards, despite his "lower" dual-threat rating.
I would take Terrelle Pryor.
Bigger arm, bigger body, not likely to get hurt as easily, faster, etc. His accuracy (which was 60% this year, if I'm not mistaken) will improve as he ages.
Tate will be good, but I think it's 90% homerism to take Forcier over Pryor.
It's a formation. You had it right the first time. Yes, Ohio State is implementing some wildcat packages into their spring practices, with talk of possibly deploying it in certain game situations in the fall (read: with a big honking lead Tressel is comfortable with, or when playing an OOC tin can.) No, Ohio State is not throwing out the old playbook. I can guarantee you 60%+ of the snaps Pryor sees this year will be from under center, and a good bit of those will be I-formation handoffs to Boom Herron.
Expect this to be deployed in similar situations to when the Pistol was deployed last year; at random and largely as an experimental package. I'd bet good money on seeing a lot more pistol formation this year than last, and certainly more of it than the Wildbuck.
How many pages is on that? Maybe eight, dating back to the 50s.