National Championship Game Open Thread

Submitted by M-Wolverine on
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Wolverine Convert

January 11th, 2011 at 12:08 AM ^

...If they wanted any chance of winning. If they let them score with a minute plus remaining they would at least get the ball back with a chance to tie instead of watching them get a TD or field goal with no time remaining

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M-Wolverine

January 11th, 2011 at 12:14 AM ^

Vegas knows their stuff.
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<br>Oh, well, I just needed the tie to win my pool, not the win. But if you were going to lose Ducks, blow the 2 point conversion and save my blood pressure.

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M-Wolverine

January 11th, 2011 at 12:35 AM ^

Because I can't find that to be the case anywhere. You can hand off to the RB to take a knee, you can run it further back to take off more time off the clock, and the defense can try and cause a fumble...it's not hands off till he's down. So can you show somewhere where it says that's the case? Because I can't find it (which doesn't mean that it's not there).

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mark5750

January 11th, 2011 at 12:50 AM ^

reading the ncaa rule book now....havent found it yet.  i could very well be wrong.  the only thing i have found that clearly relates is something from wikipedia about the nfl rule:

 

Kneel

A special formation is used at the end of a game, when a team has a lead and simply needs to run out the clock to win the game. The "kneel" or "victory" formation was developed in the 1978 NFL season after The Miracle at the Meadowlands, a botched final play in a game between the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles which resulted in a fumble and a pivotal last-second score. This formation is intended for one purpose: to allow the quarterback to safely down the ball without losing control, preventing the defense from recovering and advancing the ball to the end zone. The formation features several stop-gaps in the event the quarterback does lose the ball: a seven-man line, the quarterback, two upbacks (running backs) immediately behind him, one at each side in the event he fumbles, and a fast player (usually a wide receiver or cornerback) several yards back as a last resort in case the defense recovers and is able to advance the ball.

Both the Giants and Eagles developed similar formations of this design. The Eagles named their version the "Herman Edwards" play after their cornerback who scored the winning touchdown on the above fateful play.

 

link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(American_football)

 

i know its not the answer that i am looking for...maybe its just sportsmanship and not a real rule?

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M-Wolverine

January 11th, 2011 at 12:59 AM ^

That's where I saw you can give it to the RB.
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<br>Are you involved in high school football? I've never heard it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are Leagues or divisions that have such rules for sportsmanship, and to protect players. I would think on the college and pro level it would be like the old Marino fake spike - you'd better be paying attention. I just can't see that you can freely rush and try to tackle the guy before he takes a knee, but you can't run it in return. (I mean, what if you fumble it? You could advance it if recovered).

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mark5750

January 11th, 2011 at 1:13 AM ^

Before my job prevented me from having the time I coached what in SW Michigan is called Rocket Football.  I found the NCAA catch all.  It doesnt apply specifically but it could easily be adapted if the official was so inclined:

its pdf so i cant copy and paste

 

section 2: unsportsmanlike conduct fouls

unfair acts article 3

c. an obviously unfair act not specifically covered by the rules occurs during the game. (A.R. 4-2-1-II)

 

penalty: the referee may take any action he considers equitable, including assessing a penalty, awarding a score, or suspending or forfieting the game.

 

i know its anything but definitive but its something...

 

link:  http://www.oficiales.org/A_2009/ncaa/NCAAINGLES/2009-10%20NCAA%20Footbal%20Rule%20Book.pdf

 

edit: normally the official blows the play dead in that formation to prevent unnecessary contact.  it seems a lot more like a tribal custom at this point than official rule.  in the heat of the moment it really struck me as dirty and underhanded.

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SanDiegoUmFan

January 11th, 2011 at 12:17 AM ^

"We have the best alumni, staff, fans, and players"

Yes, you have the best players money will buy.  Should be interesting down the road when the NCAA gets around to figuring it all out.

 

Regardless, they were the better team tonight.

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BlueTimesTwo

January 11th, 2011 at 12:17 AM ^

There is nothing redeeming about the Auburn team.  Their best offensive player was bought and paid for, and their best defensive player is the dirtiest player in college football.  I look forward to the day when the details come out about Cam and Auburn's whole season is wiped from the record books.

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yoopergoblue

January 11th, 2011 at 12:29 AM ^

I hate Auburn as much as anyone but does anyone think that maybe Oregon is maybe a little dirty too?   I mean Phil Knight is made of money and throws it by the hundreds of millions to their program. I'm sure some of it is under the table stuff.....

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M-Wolverine

January 11th, 2011 at 12:36 AM ^

Winning the National Championship one year, then having MSU win it the next (or vice versa)? Alabama must be a mixed feeling state tonight.

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bryemye

January 11th, 2011 at 8:50 AM ^

That's the worst ending to a big game that I can remember ( as a neutral/hater of the SEC). Not illegal, but god. A fluke ending to a game like that...

Also, Fairley won that game for Auburn and how on earth did Oregon only get 19 points. Also Chip Kelly called a hell of a game.

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