We need to get back to 2016/2017 recruiting levels. I don't care what anyone says about an OSU baseball commit or 2 star guys with lower power 5 offers being underrated. We haven't shown that these guys are underrated on the field in the fall through three years of Harbaugh.
The defensive "under-the-radar" croots seem to be underrated, but I agree with you on the offensive side of the ball. The recruiting services seem to be correct on them so far.
but even on the defensive side of the ball underrated guys like Josh Metellus couldn't keep up with OSU's speed. Our best unit in the Harbaugh era appears to be the DL which is the area we have recruited the best. Our worst is the OL which is the position we have recruited the worst. We have some underrated guys that are good like Mckeon but the vast majority of our starters are 4/5 stars.
I'm with you on Metellus and the safety play, but the fact a 2-star like Metellus is starting tells you that he was actually "underrated."
How many 2-stars actually get to start on upper echelon college football teams?
Can we do better? Sure. I'd love to get a ball-hawk safety on this squad.
You're right - the fact that he started only tells us that we don't have any better. It's the fact that he started for one of the top defenses in the country, and wasn't a weak link, that tells us that he was underrated. Your average two-star doesn't do that.
I agree, we need more Derrick Greens and fewer Mike Harts.
Somebody just tweeted about this recently, can't seem to find it. Every position except OL recruits had out-performed.
2016
Eubanks - looked good, but not much PT yet
McDoom - some usage, not much PT
K Hudson - looks great
Uche - RS Sophomore - not much PT yet
Spanellis - RS Sophomore - not much PT yet
McKeon - solid contributor
Metellus - solid contributor
Gil - competing for a spot
Dwumfour - RS Soph - ready to contribute
Nordin - RS Soph - contributing
gone - Mbem-Bosse
gone - Nate Johnson
gone - Kingston Davis
never made it to campus - D Johnson
so most are either contributing, in line to contribute, or not with the program
2017 3-stars
only Hawkins, Woods, Paye, Mason and Robbins played - the rest red-shirted - these 5 are decent players
so not bad with the 3-stars still here tbh
for good measure. He was a 3*, but he was the #1 kicker and kickers don't get 4*s. That means that there were 12 3*s in the class (Eubanks was a 4*). They're going on their 3rd year.
Of the 12 remaining, there is one absolute, no doubt star. That's Khaleke. No doubt about it, that's a win.
There's 2 good, solid starters/starting caliber players. That's Metellus and McKeon.
There's 4 guys no longer with the program.
Of the rest, McDoom has 13 career catches, Gil hasn't been much else besides special teams, though he has a ton of potential, Spanellis is coming on, but is on the outside looking in. Dwumfour and Uche look really good. We do have success with 3*'s, but we have so much more success and a higher hit rate with blue chip players.
The non-3*s in the 2016 Class:
Rashan Gary- Star
Ben Bredeson- multiple year starter, good offensive lineman
David Long and LaVert Hill- Very good starting corners.
Devin Asiasi- Great TE, transferred back home
Mike Onwenu- Projected starter
Chris Evans- Good APB
Devin Bush- Missile, All B1G linebacker
Brandon Peters- Jury is still out
Carlo Kemp, Ron Johnson, Kekoa Crawford, Kareem Walker- A good DL, a guy without much playing time, a decent receiver, and a promising back that hasn't seen the field much yet.
Obviously we can find hidden gems, the point is, the hit rate for more talented players is way better. That being said, it's important to differentiate between a beginning of the cycle 3* and an end of the cycle 3*. Lots of guys are given a generic 3* due to lack of scouting, so I wouldn;t hold the current rankings with too much weight.
some three stars out perform expectations and become stars. Recruiting rankings aren't the end all, be all. But they're pretty damn indicative of future success, and it's a hell of a lot harder to scout and develop. A school like Michigan honestly should be consistently bringing in top ten talent.
34% of the 24/7 top 50 recruits in 2014 were drafted in the first two rounds of the draft.
36% in 2013 were taken in the first two rounds.
30% in 2012.
The point is, the guys consistently with the absolute highest ceiling and ability are the blue chippers. A higher percentage of top 50 guys get picked in the top 50 of the NFL Draft than Michigan 3 stars actually becoming a starter.
All of you guys need to remember that at the moment you are complaining about star rankings with kids that haven't even finished their Junior years - Still have yet to see the results of any camps that the kids have attended (or will attend) and the impact on their rankings. Honestly, the recruiting rankings are still extremely early in the process. Much will change.
And to further that, a lot of these "3 stars" currently committed have major power 5 offers. There's a reason we are getting these kids now instead of as "fillers" - the staff really believes these are excellent to elite prospects near or at the top of their position lists.
All that being said, I just think it's wise to save the concerns until after rankings get closer to official.
about any specific player we have committed. I'm talking the philosophy of it. I understand recruiting rankings are very fluid.
which WR's have outperformed rankings and/or expectations? or QB? just off the top of my head but no one jumps out at either spot going back a few years.
im genuinely curious what youre referencing - interested if its an article or some source backed by legit stats, etc, as opposed to a simple tweet or proclamation from jimmy jerkoff
I hope its a 3 star, love seeing the weirdo recruiting nuts get upset.
Barnhart
I was looking for the 3-star outrage in the Hello post and didn't see any. Now I feel right at home.
This is unacceptable: Warinner can't recruit, and Harbaugh is all sizzle and no steak, distracting his team with trips to France and all that swishy croissant and espresso nonsense.