Attn: Delaney / B1G Refs...
We have not forgotten your intentional screw job last year in Columbus. We have not forgotten the unprofessional behavior of Daniel Capron, Bobby Sagers, and Kevin Schwarzel. You swung the game 17 poins with 10-15 blatant and timely calls and no calls. Due to your actions the Ohio State Buckeyes were dismembered by Clemson by 5 touchdowns. You cheated hard working student athletes like Jabrill Peppers, Taco Charlton, Jourdan Lewis, Jake Butt and many others out of a decisive victory over OSU.
We have not forgotten...
Below are only a few of the blatant and embarassing calls from the one sided debacle last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mhG1Pp6SJM
You owe Michigan a 17 point swing like you gave OSU. We have not forgotten you and your disgraceful actions.
(Edit - for those saying move on - no. You do not let injustice of this magnitude stand. Call it out.)
November 20th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
The level to which people think Michigan got screwed by the refs last year has largely approached JFK "did Oswald act alone?" conspiracy level nonsense.
Yes, there were some missed calls in the game. But it's Michigan's fault that it put itself in a position where the game had to be decided by that 4th and 1 call. They couldn't pick up a single first down in the 4th quarter. Just one would've likely iced the game and OT would not have even had to happen.
It's not the ref's fault that Delano Hill (I believe it was Delano) committed a blatant, stupid PI call on 3rd down giving OSU's last drive in regulation, giving them a fresh set of downs. It's not the ref's fault that Speight turned the ball over three times, once on OSU's fucking one yard line. It's not the ref's fault that Michigan's defense had Curtis Samuel all but dead to rights on 3rd and 8 in 2OT, and let him dance around in the backfield like a ballerina and scramble all the way to make it 4th and 1. Wrap him up in the backfield and Michigan likely wins the game on either a desperation 4th and forever throw from Barrett or a long FG from an extremely unreliable kicker.
The refs did not screw Michigan. Michigan screwed itself. Self-inflicted wounds let OSU come back and score 17 unanswered points to tie the game. Michigan has no one to blame but itself for last year's outcome. My advice to you: get the fuck over it and move on with your life.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
Laughable. These are the threads that give the M fan base a bad name in the outside world.
It's always, always something else. No willingness to look within.
November 20th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^
Yes, it can literally only be one thing. It can't possibly in no way shape or form be both. And, even it were both, lets completely ignore one of them.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^
It's just the same old bullshit. Michigan had opportunity, after opportunity, after opportunity to put that game away. Instead, we go back to the refs because it makes some people feel good about why they lost.
Did they get some tough breaks? Sure. Does it happen to every team almost every game? Yeah. Gotta be better.
You have one of your most talented teams in a long time, and are going against another team that really couldn't do much of anything. Win the game.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
So, what does Michigans playing well or not have to do with the reffing being atrocious or whether or not it should be called out?
November 20th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
It's not that it should be wholly ignored, but what irritates the hell out of me is that people are pointing to the refs as THE SOLE REASON why Michigan lost the game, and that it was some ridiculous statewide consipracy to screw Michigan over and get OSU into the playoff.
Yes, there were some really tough breaks. But in case no one is paying attention, bad breaks happen in every single game. Michigan screwed itself and put itself in a position where the refs had to influence the final outcome. They had no one to blame for that but themselves. As said above, Michigan had countless opportunities to step on OSU's throat and put the game away, but they never capitalized. They let OSU right back into the game.
That's their own damn fault. Not the refs.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^
You do realize that you just agreed that the reffing is so bad that it shouldn't be ignored but then also went on to say that Michigan had no one to blame but themselves.
You can't have both.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
November 20th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^
Okay tough guy....
Go ahead and keep making excuses and dive into your BS conspiracy theories about why Michigan lost last year. For a fanbase that is tired of excuses for why it's football team isn't as good as they think it should be, we certainly don't have any problems making up excuses for why we lost the OSU game last year.
Always someone else's fault, right?
November 20th, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
All that I'm saying is that it should be acknowledged that there were some calls that didn't go our way, but newsflash: those happen in every single game. Until you have robots reffing your games for you, you should expect bad calls to keep happening. Refs are imperfect human beings. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to Michigan.
I think we all need to take our maize and blue sunglasses off every now and again. Michigan's level of play in the second half put it in a position where the refs had to influence the outcome. Michigan should never have even put itself in a position to where the game had to go to OT, but self-inflicted wounds and an inability to pick up a single first down in the fourth quarter are what caused the game to go the way it did.
November 20th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^
How many extra points does a team have to score to overcome being in a position where the refs can influence the game?
7? 10? 17? 21?
The correct answer is zero.
Bad calls and bad noncalls are just part of the game - if they really do go both way
November 20th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
Because it becomes the narrative, not the team. This is always, always an all-or-nothing deal. And this thread is not about Michigan playing well. It's about how Michigan got screwed, period.
November 20th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
But you're doing the same thing. You literally said "it's always the same old bullshit, everyone gets screwed by the refs sometime or another, just win". Are you not saying that no matter what the play should superscede the reffing?
What about when the other team is literally incapable of having a penalty called against them? Should it superscede it then? What about when undeniable touchdowns are called as not touchdowns? Should it superscede it then?
At some point there is a line where a team plays well enough to win, even with mistakes, and reffing does them in. In relatively fairly called games a bad call here or there is fine, peole make mistakes. But in situations where the reffing was as bad as it was in the M-OSU 2016 game the narrative absolutely SHOULD be about the reffing.
Yes the team should've played better, but it's the opponents job to make sure that doesn't happen. It's OK when that happens, frustrating, but fair. It's not a teams job to overcome reffing, reffing should be fair and not need to be overcome, ever, period. Now will it some, of course, people make mistakes. But what happened at OSU wasn't a reffing mistake, it was egregious and obvious.
They had zero penalties. ZERO! Watch that video, there were so many egreious and obvious penalties commited directly in front of the refs face that it's hard to believe that reffing shouldn't be a serious narrative.
Until reffing is significantly less of an issue than it has been, for the sport as a whole, it's always going to have a narrative. That narrative is absolutely justifiable.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
What I've found ironic is that a lot of us are tired of all the excuses as to why Michigan is not an elite program yet under Harbaugh, but when it comes to last year's game, we get all the excuses in the world as to why the loss happened. It's everyone else's fault EXCEPT for the guys who played and coached the game.
I'm not a troll. I fucking hate OSU as much as anyone on this board, but when it comes to this game, it's always someone else's fault.
November 20th, 2017 at 10:27 AM ^
This team should absolutely use this as fuel to fire them up this year. They did get away with a bunch of shitty, bogus calls that went their way - but FUCK THAT SHIT MAKE 'EM PAY FOR IT THIS YEAR. PAYBACK IS A BITCH. FUCK 'EM UP!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 20th, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^
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November 20th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
Lets just get over what happened last year, it does not matter anymore
November 20th, 2017 at 1:37 PM ^
We need to get over what happened last year it does nothing to help us this year