TomVH: Kevin Williams Update
DT Kevin Williams ended up not going to Notre Dame's junior day. Not earth shattering, but it's good news for us. Any time a recruit doesn't visit another school, it's a good thing.
Part of why he didn't go is because his family had other plans, but also because he's not really interested in Notre Dame anymore. He doesn't feel that they have a big enough need for interior linemen.
Is he still planning on visiting Nebraska for their spring game?
If you are reading this, attending Notre Dame will only get you covered in Lou Holtthththth's spit at alumni events for the rest of his natural life.
Also, do you really want to be a "Cornhusker" for the rest of your life? That sounds like a naughty euphemism if I've ever heard one.*
*I haven't technically heard a naughty euphemism before, but I read the definition one time and the word looks fancy.
*I haven't technically heard a naughty euphemism before, but I read the definition one time and the word looks fancy.First time on the Internet, huh?
Magnus is a naughty euphemism.
During my time at OU (that would Univ of Oklahoma), we had another way of pronouncing that word. It probably can't be put into type here, but it does rhyme with Corn-Trucker.
I definitely would not want to be called that.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^
It sounds like you really want Kevin to pick Michigan. Not just from this post, but others you've had.
ND hasn't offered a DT yet and there isn't a need for one in this class after switching to the 3-4. Unless Williams showed himself to be a game breaker, he wasn't likely to get an offer.
Sounds like Hegarty didn't make his visit to UM before ND's junior day as he had planned. Just a small update from an earlier post I made.
*yawns*
Notre Dame negative recruiting Michigan to Pluto and back during their Junior Day Weekend. One less Michigan recruit to be subjected to the tripe hors d'oeuvres that they served up.
you put too much stock in what beaver is feeding you
DeAnthony Arnett essentially admitted that ND was negative recruiting against Michigan. Not a huge stretch of the imagination.
I am sure they are and tbh, hope they are. That wasn't something that Weis did much, its nice to see the coaching staff returning fire. Like you said its not a stretch to think a few things might come up in recruiting conversations.
In that case, what is "Never" putting too much stock into Beaver about?
I didn't say "never"
there is information in his posts but you should not take it word for word.
You kinda contradicted yourself. First you say don't put too much stock in what TB is "feeding us," then backtrack and say "well umm yeah it's conceivable that they negative recruited Michigan during their Junior Day?"
um no?
I said:
"you put too much stock in what beaver is feeding you" as in he should not take beaver's posts word for word. I am not saying he lies, there is some truth to what he posts, but there is a considerable amount of spin with the way he posts. Anyone who hangs on his every word is going to be mislead.
just stop at this point. Your response was quickly discredited by what Arnett said at which point you basically say oh ok, well good then. Then you go back and still try to defend your original wrong post. No one brought up Beaver but you. The fact is actual recruits have said there is negative recruiting going on at ND. To your come back saying "it's about time we returned fire" I suggest you stop putting too much stock in what message boards are feeding you. I would give you the name of an ND blogger but I have never wasted my time on a message board for a team I don't root for. What does that tell you?
So when Justice Hayes was asked by a rivals reporter what Kelly said about UM and RR this weekend, and he said none of the coaches talked about either subject, does that back up what I said?
nope
Yeah, Irish. You know I usually respect what you have to offer, but you're being contradictory here.
Your response to the comment that ND negative recruits Michigan says "You put too much stock in what Beaver tells you." Then your next response is, "I'm sure they negative recruit, and to be honest, I hope they do because Weis didn't negative recruit much."
Yeah no problem, my posts didn't have the same effect I expected, obviously. I think that if you had read his quote you might actually agree with me, but I doubt it really matters at this point anyway. lol
Weis didn't because he had a God complex and thought both he and his team were better than they were. I mean after all he did have a QB that was going to win 3 Heisman's right? If I were ND's coaching staff I would be more worried about doing enough on the field to secure commits or gain interest rather than negative recruit. A decade and a half of being mediocrity is going to bite you in the ass sometime.
yeah, I think he thought it was "beneath him".
March 21st, 2010 at 10:01 PM ^
Many things are beneath him, as he casts a significant shadow.
March 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 AM ^
I feel bad for anything that's beneath him.
I'm guessing this is premium content, but in a nutshell, what did he say they said?
in the minds of recruits. To any smart kid, recruiting in this manner vs. highlighting your team discredits the mouth the words are coming out of and highlights a general concern your program has for the opposition.
It does have negative impact on some recruits, who get turned off by it. At the same time though, it can be the trigger to turn a recruit away from a school.
A lot of other fanbases seem to doubt Beaver, but a lot of the time he ends up being right. I recall FSU fans and their comments towards Beaver suggesting Dorsey was coming to Michigan.
did he tell you that too? =)
I would recommend you take what he says with a grain of salt. He isn't a black hole of information but there is a ton of spin. I don't know if he intentionally misleads people but in the end he does.
a lot more than he's been wrong
How in the name of Touchdown Jesus does a ND fan have more MGoPoints then you? For that matter more than a vast majority of MGoBloggers?
March 22nd, 2010 at 12:22 PM ^
and since i'm trying to do well i don't come here as much. once i'm independently wealthy i'll be here all the time
Thanks for the update Tom
This is good because we clearly have a need for impact interior linemen.
im going with Arnett on this one.
i just wish players saw negative recruiting for what it is, a weakness. ive heard multiple recruits asked whether RR's staff negatively recruits, and they have each said no.
March 22nd, 2010 at 12:46 AM ^
I'm not sure where the DeAnthony Arnett thing came from, but I talked to him tonight and he had no idea where that came from.
DeAnthony hasn't been to Notre Dame in over a year, and said he hasn't heard any negative recruiting towards Michigan, from them.
that can't be true because that goes against what my argument was, so there. Then again it's not a lie if you really really think its true, right?
well then i certainly retract my statement. hope ND and their coaching staff remain the respectful opposition.
negative recruiting is bad for the recruits, their families, and cfb as a whole.
I apologize for side tracking your thread, thanks for the updates again
but for my opinion on negative recruiting, it follows my opinion of politics (I won't get into specifics, I promise). Nothing bothers me more, nor turns me off of a candidate faster, than telling me about the other party.
What I want to hear from a politican is what he and his party plan to do for me should they get into power. I don't need them to tell me how the other parties can't possibly fulfill what is in their platforms or what they do in their personal lives. I want to know what you will do for me.
I look at recruiting the same way and hope that most of these youngsters do aswell. When someone starts badmouthing the opposition to gain my support it tells me they have nothing of substance to offer me and therefore, have to resort to that foolishness.
All that said, it appears as though the negative recruiting thing on ND's part may have been untrue, but the topic gets me angry.