OT: Question on HIIT Training

Submitted by karpodiem on

Bear with me, and suspend your Mike Gittelson (for you youngins', he the S&C coach under Carr) 'eat a pizza before bed' PTSD; fortunately we have left that era, along with two other eras. Harbaugh.

Anyways, just picked up Bigger, Leaner, Stronger (https://www.amazon.com/Bigger-Leaner-Stronger-Bodybuilding-Weightliftin…) - looks like there's a decent amount of science behind this routine? Looking forward to reading more of it this evening after work.

Is anyone working out and using a HIIT program? To be honest, I've never lifted much but I am pretty lean/althletic (5'9/150lbs) and I've got a fair bit of self control with respect to my diet. Looking to get more into strength training and the concept of these short/intense workouts, the results, and fitting this all (most workouts are under an hour?) into a busy work schedule is appealing.

 

gbdub

June 29th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^

Honestly, as someone that's been there and still working out of it, most important thing is to improve your diet and do something (almost anything!) relatively intense that you'll do regularly.

If you're really out of shape, any regular exercise is probably an improvement. That's part of why things like cross fit are so popular. It's not the best way to optimize muscle mass gain for someone lean or anything like that, but it motivates people to show up and if you start from a low level of fitness you will definitely get stronger and fitter, at least at first.

Also from experience, I'll say that getting some coaching, whether from group classes, a personal trainer, or just a knowledgeable buddy, is worth it. Injuries suck and downtime kills your progress, so make sure your form is good. Exhaustion and discomfort are good, pain is bad - if something really hurts, back off a bit. If you try to do too much for ego, you can get hurt.

Stop worrying, start lifting.



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Farnn

June 29th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^

Personally I've found that diet without exercise doesn't help me lose much weight.  When I combine the two I get the best results.  Anything that sheds weight fast isn't sustainable, better to go gradually.  Also, if you haven't lifted much before, you will gain muscle pretty quickly at first, and likely stay about the same weight but notice a body change as you lose fat and gain muscle. 

Jonesy

June 29th, 2016 at 8:09 PM ^

It's almost entirely about diet.  Exercise is great for other health reasons but not very effective on it's own for fat loss.  My wife is a health coach if you're interested, her mom and dad both lost ~100 pounds each on the program (in less than a year iirc).  No diet and/or exercise program works without hard work but this is the easiest one I've seen as it mails 5/6 meals a day to you for ~300 bucks a month and they don't taste bad and you are kept satiated at all times.  Most diets fail because you're starving all the time and you can't sustain that for long.

the noid

June 29th, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^

As an earlier post alluded to, HIIT is a cardio based plan, very few resistance exercises can elicit the HR requirements specified in HIIT studies. Circuit training, the technique you seem to be referring to is an effective technique to build an excellent base for further resistance training or as a good variation within a program. I use circuit training at the start of programs and between mesocycles (block of similar intensity exercise) as an effective transition.

JFW

June 29th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^

I had very little experience with him. Just a football camp. But to be completely fair he never was that weird to me. 

UM at the time loved nautilus equipment, and did *alot* of training to failure (at least that's what they showed us) with it. But beyond that they did normal weight training and normal nutrition. 

It couldn't have been all bad, I mean it produced Jansen, Skrep, Jenksin, Hutch....

gordify

June 29th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

I've done all types of training. I've found they all have something in common. They all work. High volume, HIT, mountain dog, FST-7. Low intensity, HIIT cardio. If you dedicate yourself to a plan it will work. There's one catch however. 85% percent of your gains (or losses) are made in the kitchen, not the gym.

DTOW

June 29th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^

You really don't need to do any sort of program.  The only way to get "leaner" is to run a caloric deficit.  I'd recommend doing a combination of HIIT training mixed with resistance training.  I've also started to incorporate intermittant fasting to my diet.  90% of getting lean is your intake side of the equation.  You can workout like crazy but if you're eating Hardees 3 times a week its all for nothing.

KC Wolve

June 29th, 2016 at 3:04 PM ^

If you really want to "lean up" you have to adjust your diet. I don't mean eat better, I mean figure your maintenance caloric intake and eat below that amount. If you want to get nuts, get a food scale and weigh everything. Almost everyone that says they "only eat this" or they are certain that they are below their deficit, takes in more calories than they realize.



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DTOW

June 29th, 2016 at 11:02 PM ^

For resistance training I personally stick to the big 3 lifts which are bench press, squat and deadlifts.  I squat and deadlift on the same days and usually thats all I do on those days because they're a kick to the shorts.  On bench days I mix in flies, barbell rows, shoulder press or whatever else I'm in the mood for.  Typically I'll do HIIT training before I lift just because I hate cardio and want to get it over with.  If you really want to get a crazy workout and your gym offers it I'd suggest pushing and pulled weighted sleds.  

I also try to avoid eating before I work out.  If you eat before you work out your body's first source of energy is going to be to burn whats in your stomach.  If you eat on an empty stomach your body will resort to breaking down fat in order to use for energy.  Keep in mind, like others have said, the biggest part is your food intake.  Also, do not try to lose crazy amount of weight in a short period.  1-3 lbs per week is a good number to shoot for if you already live an active lifestyle.