Will Beilein teams (nearly) always be outmatched at the 4?

Submitted by ypsituckyboy on

Looking at the game with a short Tulsa squad and it seems like a good match-up for us, particularly because Tulsa can't exploit our lack of height at the 4 position. Zak Irvin is a stocky 6'6" but is usually forced to guard guys a fair bit bigger than himself.

That got me wondering if being undersized at the 4 is something Beilein teams will always struggle with on the defensive end. Given that our main sets are four out one in, Beilein ideally wants a player that's 6'7"+ who can put the ball on the floor and shoot well from outside. However, any player like that is going to be a hot commodity. Project-type guys like Uthoff are tough to predict and the ones that obviously fit the mold (TJ Leaf) make for a tough recruiting pull. Given the rarity of the ideal 4, it seems likely that Beilein will frequently be forced to roll with the less rare 6'5"-6'6" guy who can do the things on offense that his system requires and we'll end up having to pay the price on the defensive end. 

Think this will continue to be an issue down the line? Mo Wagner may fit the bill but I'm not seeing anyone else on the squad who has the 4 skills and size to fix the problem once Zak leaves.

 

BigBlue02

March 14th, 2016 at 7:38 PM ^

Not to mention the year we won the B10 with all the MSU weird guys, we were without our first round draft pick and best center all year. But yeah, MSU was totally better because they had a guy punch a table and break his own hand

Lanknows

March 14th, 2016 at 5:09 PM ^

Beilein made the elite 8. That was after going to the national title game and despite losing 3 NBA players (the national POY, another NBA draft pick, and (via injury) Mitch McGary).

Beilein's been 'hanging his hat' on that for all of a year.  A year in which he lost his two best players to injury and both his returning centers to unexpected attrition. (I didn't even include the 2 guys they lost to the NBA)

You're probably really mad about this year - when Michigan again lost two key players to injury (including probably it's most talented player since Jamal Crawford) yet still made the NCAA tournament. Total outrage.

I appreciate having high standards for Michigan basketball, but one can't just ignore the recent success or the context of the last 2 years. Michigan SHOULD be contending for Big Ten championships year in and year out, but there will be down years, like there are for every program. 

Beilein got Michigan to that point of contending and sometimes winning conference championships (from the Amaker-nothing). 1 or (maybe even 2) bad years don't change that. 

Even this team is a good break or two away from being back in the Sweet 16, inexperience, injury, warts, and all.

 

A Fan In Fargo

March 14th, 2016 at 2:21 PM ^

Just get in the damn weight room and put on some muscle. If you are a truly skilled and talented athlete with true finesse the muscle added on wont hurt your game.

Lanknows

March 14th, 2016 at 2:28 PM ^

Horford and Morgan had a few years to gain strength and experience. You've seen the leap Donnal has made in Year 3. You saw Bielfeldt go from unplayable liability to 6th man of the year.

A lot of our problems stem from having had to put freshman and sophomores who are raw out there in starting roles before they are ready.  Imagine how much more positive we'd all be if Doyle and Chatman had had red-shirt seasons and had 3 years of eligibility left to grow and improve.

Talent can make up for inexperience and experience can make up for a lack of talent but Michigan has failed to recruit well the last 2 years and lost all their experience too. That explains the entirety of the issues we had this year and especially last year.

And yet -- the team still made the tournament. 

The future is bright.

champswest

March 14th, 2016 at 3:10 PM ^

In one season, Beilein lost Morgan, McGary and Horford. He was forced to play Doyle as a freshman and move Donnal from 4 to a 5. Most bigs take time to develop. Even the great Frank Kaminsky who won POY wasn't much as a sophmore.

Lanknows

March 14th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^

The entire frontcourt was gone, to be replaced by raw-as-hell freshman (and a 6'6 guy they didn't invite back).

Donnal was never a Beilein 4 and never will be a 4. If he was a 4 he would have replaced GR3 instead of the hodge podge of freshman wings (MAAR/Dawkins/Chatman) that ended up playing alongside Irvin instead.  Most of the C minutes went to Doyle (18 mpg) and Bielfeldt (15 mpg).  Donnal got some minutes too but Michigan needed him just as badly at the 4 as at the 5.

 

Ty Butterfield

March 14th, 2016 at 7:00 PM ^

Michigan was getting torn apart on Mike and Mike this morning. A loss to Tellllllsa would be very bad for the program.