Overdue Divisional Playoff thread

Submitted by Broken Brilliance on January 12th, 2019 at 6:21 PM

Patrick Mahomes II is absolutely filthy. Even the staunchest NFL haterz can't deny he's fun to watch. Also just had a gehrig Dieter sighting.

DoubleB

January 12th, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^

I'm not sure he can develop into something more. I'm by no means an expert on watching the LA Rams, but he looks bad under pressure and doesn't have the footwork or sense to avoid it.

He really is great for this offense. Play action pass where he can sit back and survey the field.

stephenrjking

January 12th, 2019 at 10:54 PM ^

He makes the occasional bad pass and he's got some weaknesses. But, as I said, there's a scale here. He's not useless. He's not a top 5 guy. But in today's NFL perhaps he's enough.

Since the current playoff format was enacted in the early 90s, Super Bowls have basically been won by three kinds of QBs: 1. HOF greats (Aikman, Young, Favre, Elway, Warner, Brady, Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning, Brees, Rodgers); 2. Cheap guys that play well surrounded by talent (Dilfer, Flacco, Wilson, Foles); 3. Guys named Eli Manning or Brad Johnson.

Obviously things are different in the last few years, when Flacco, Wilson, and Foles have won Super Bowls (Foles as a backup for Wentz, who is also very cheap) surrounded by talent. Guys like Colin Kaepernick have made it to within a hair's breadth of winning. 

Passing in the NFL is so emphasized right now that while the elite is still elite, the very good is capable of coming much closer in approaching the elite. Thus, increasing the value of the rest of the roster is a bigger deal. Amari Cooper was a season-changing acquisition for the Cowboys. The Rams have talent everywhere. The Bears had a great season with Mitch Trubisky.

And, in contrast, the Vikings spent big money on a QB and ignored holes in their roster and never made the playoffs.

The Rams have a narrow window, but the window is there. 

The thing about a QB needing to hit a couple of key throws to win is that he does--but in a small sample size of a couple of key throws, a cheaper guy might have the chance to pull it off even if he's only good and not HOF elite.

DoubleB

January 12th, 2019 at 10:08 PM ^

Good is fine when you have all the talent around him. The best RB in the league, maybe the best troika of WRs in the league (I know Kupp is hurt), and an OL that is embarrassing Dallas right now. Is that enough to win a Super Bowl? I think at some point he'll have to make plays on 3rd and long on the road or in the Super Bowl and that's going to be an issue. But hey Foles won it last year so who knows.

I agree with you 100% about letting him go in 2 years. He's probably not going to be good enough to be a difference maker with less talent around him and at some point he would have to deal with that if he stayed (with his higher contract thereby releasing the talent around him).

 

Hail Harbo

January 12th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^

Jourdan Lewis, told by Dallas they didn't need corners under 6 foot tall this year, set out to make his presence known regardless.  He's now their featured return man, runs the occasional offensive play... and, oh yes, he finds himself playing CB every now and again.

The Fan in Fargo

January 12th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^

Okay, I've had a couple Jack Honey and Cokes but was that an offensive shove out of bounds on that Cowboy receiver on the Ram's DB? Talk about shaving fucking points!! LMAO

stephenrjking

January 12th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^

Well, the Cowboys technically have a chance to tie here. Just need a stop. 3 TOs and the 2-minute warning.

Should still go onside here; if the Rams get one first down it's almost certainly over anyway, so you may as well get the extra few percent of the onside kick.

Unfortunately onside kicks are so hard to convert. I wish they were a slightly higher low-probability chance. It's really just a freak accident when it happens. 15-20% is about right. 

I guess a mid-distance chip shot is possible. Some kicker should really figure out a way to make a sky-drive kick that his guys can run under.

Ajcoss

January 12th, 2019 at 11:14 PM ^

If we think Herby is bad with OSU, listening to Aikmen and Buck slobber over Dallas is just gross. I want Rams, but even more now with these two.