Should there be an NFL Farm System?

Submitted by El Jeffe on

On the heels of WatersDemos's excellent diary and the Bobby Knight Board discussion, I got to thinking that it might be worth while having a collaborative debate about the issue of payment to college football players. I would be especially interested in hearing from some MGoEconomists on this issue, given that there are some particularities of the labor market for football services that invite economic thinking.

The Problem

The problem (if it is a problem) with the NCAA rule against players' selling their swag is that it seems to violate principles of personal property rights. So, the logical alternative is to allow players to sell their swag to whomever they choose. This creates an incentive structure in which recruits can be told by coaches that University X has a super rich booster who will give them $100,000 for a couple of signed jerseys. Lesser recruits might only be able to command, say, $50,000 over four years at a lesser school. At this point, college football becomes no different than minor league baseball or hockey, with the prearranged "jersey sales" being tantamount to signing bonuses.

But, this is only a problem if it is defined as a problem; that is, if our sepia-toned memories of what college football used to be like make us unwilling to accept that college football could be a farm system. On the other hand, humans use things like nostalgia and emotion to drive decision-making from time to time—it’s called “culture.”

Solution 1

So, one solution would seem to be a flat wage for all football players, outside of tuition, books, and whatever they currently get for pocket money. So, all players would be paid, say, $2,000 per month for 12 months, essentially a fairly lucrative campus job. That wage could even rise as they progress through college, so that by the time the NFL draft rolls around, the vast majority of players who don’t get selected might have a little money in their pockets to go to grad school, start a business, etc.

Two obvious problems with this:

  1. Other NCAA athletes don’t have access to this. It would only be football players; and
  2. Although the flat wage would prevent an above-board bidding war for recruits (since there would be no benefit to choosing University X over Y, unlike the return on choosing the Yankees over the Royals), it only creates a new level playing field on which rich boosters would compete under the table. In that sense, it doesn’t really solve any problems. That is, even if (and perhaps because) Terrelle Pryor would earn as much as Drew Dileo, there would still be incentives for back room payments.

Solution 2

Another solution is to create a farm system for the NFL, and force high school players to choose between college and the farm team. It stands to reason that if two of the three other major sports have farm systems, and the NBA has a sort of hybrid (the NBDL would be a true farm system if the players were allowed to sign directly from high school), there would be pressure for the NFL to follow suit.

It seems to me like the crux of the problem is that college football players (like baseball, hockey, and basketball players, and unlike college gymnasts or water polo players) possess a set of skills that, at their highest level, are highly in demand in the professional labor market. This creates all sorts of incentives for players to want to cash in on those skills.

This is what I want some economists’ take on: is it coincidence or causal that the two college sports where recruiting is dirty like dirt in a dirt sandwich are football and basketball, the two major revenue-generating pro sports that don’t have a fully-developed farm system, a la hockey and baseball? My working hypothesis is that having a well-developed farm system—which allows star players to get paid for their services prior to making it to the big show—that reduces the dirt in college baseball or hockey recruiting.

So, if we are truly concerned about such dirt, the solution would be to make the NBDL a true farm system, and to create a NFL farm system. The case of Brandon Jennings is instructive in this respect—recall that because he couldn’t go into either the NBA or NDBL right after high school, he went to Europe to play. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happens more in the future. In this sense, the Euro leagues are like the NBA farm system (see also: Ricky Rubio), but just a really inefficient one as of now.

Anyway, if the NFL did adopt a farm system, it would have to be done like the other farm systems, that is, in conjunction with the NFL. So, no competitive USFL or XFL or even Arena league nonsense. I actually think this could work, by the way. There are plenty of places where (1) football is beloved, (2) there is no local NFL team, and (3) plenty of rooting interest in a nearby NFL team. Or, more nationally, I’m sure the Dallas Cowboys’ farm team—even if it was located in, say, Louisville, KY—would generate plenty of suppport.

The Questions

So I guess the three questions are:

  1. Is selling swag under the current system a problem?
  2. Would paying players more help the problem?
  3. Would an NFL (and true NBA) farm system be (a) economically viable, and (b) solve the problem of dirty practices in college football and basketball?

I'll hang up and listen.

Comments

Gameboy

June 7th, 2011 at 5:51 PM ^

1. In terms of property rights, I'm only tossing out what many of the objections are to the NCAA rule. I.e., "why shouldn't Pryor be allowed to sell his gold pants?"

Nobody is saying that Pryor cannot sell his gold pants. He can go sell hundreds of gold pants for that matter.

What he CANNOT do is sell those gold pants and REMAIN an amateur athlete under NCAA terms. This is COMPLETELY voluntary. Pryor can renouce his eligibility at any time. You should not confuse voluntary compliance with something that is truly mandated.

2. In terms of nostalgia, my line of argumentation is this:

  • Unlike the other three major sports, football has no formal farm system;
  • College football, with some modifications, could be that farm system.
  • This would violate our nostalgic memories of our brave boys fighting the hated Buckeyes on the grid-iron while we wave our fedoras skyward and praise President Roosevelt.
  • OTOH, even if our distaste for college football becoming a farm system is driven by nostalgia, what's wrong with that?
  • Because we probably can't or won't turn college football into a true farm system, perhaps we (and by we I mean the NFL, as if they haven't already...) should think about a formal NFL farm system.

NCAA will NEVER agreed to becoming a "farm team" for anyone else. Why would they when they are making as much money as they are making right now? Why would they share that wealth with NFL when they bring really absolutely nothing to the table?

3. As for the popularity of college football and willingness of boosters to pay, I simply wonder whether some of that would be reduced if 25% of the top football recruits went to the farm system. One could argue, I suppose, that creaming off the top 25% just makes the 26% kid the new #1.

A ton of top kids went to NBA straight out of college for awhile. That really had no affect on popularity of the NCAA basketball. It is the school that makes the NCAA work, not the kids. There are new kids coming and going every year. People follow their favorite schools, not individual talent (no one know who they are coming out of high school).

4. As for incentives, the only incentive in pro sports is money. So if the NFL thought it could make money by having a farm system, it would. Frankly, I don't really understand the economics of it all that well, which is why I was hoping some sports economists would get involved. Is it really the case that the MLB farm system is more profitable than allowing colleges to train the next generation of baseball players on those colleges' dimes?

Running a minor league system costs a lot of money. MLB can do it because they have had those minor league teams for a long time and there is built in support for them. Trying to recreate that today would cost a lot of money that NFL owners would rather not spend.

chitownblue2

June 7th, 2011 at 6:08 PM ^

I'll concede Point 1.

Point 2: The NCAA has already tacitly agreed to being a farm team. Is there another apt description for 2 sports that graduate approximately 50% of it's participants when all other sports are over 80%? As to formalizing? No, I'm sure they won't. They'd rather continue the sham of amateurism in these sports, and pretend like these kids are getting something.

Point 3: I agree that college football would still be popular, but remember - many more kids, in a farm system, would not be going pro than in the NBA, where they asked 18 year olds to play in the NBA. This would, in theory, be an entire league of players, not 12 a year.

Point 4: I'm sure the NFL would never consider it as long as the NCAA is willing to provide them a minor league for free. The question is, what would happen if the NCAA decided that 50% graduation rates in bullshit majors for kids using the school for exposure for the pros doesn't dovetail with the mission of higher education?

ppToilet

June 7th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^

The NFL is getting a free minor league. They don't have any liability or responsibility for the injured athletes, nor do they have to pay a dime to have the talent developed. The NCAA is complicit because there is money to be made.

The love of money is a poison at the heart of college football. It is time to separate those who really want a college degree from those who want a professional football career. The minor league need not be large at first. Maybe 8 teams, maybe mostly in the south, maybe play on Saturday nights, hopefully on TV. If there is enough talent (and money), it would take off. Have classes on money management for the kids, or work it into their contracts that school will be paid for if they don't go pro.

Not every kid can make it through college. Not every kid can get into college. Some dream of playing in the NFL and have the ability. They need another path.

chitownblue2

June 7th, 2011 at 6:08 PM ^

I'll concede Point 1.

Point 2: The NCAA has already tacitly agreed to being a farm team. Is there another apt description for 2 sports that graduate approximately 50% of it's participants when all other sports are over 80%? As to formalizing? No, I'm sure they won't. They'd rather continue the sham of amateurism in these sports, and pretend like these kids are getting something.

Point 3: I agree that college football would still be popular, but remember - many more kids, in a farm system, would not be going pro than in the NBA, where they asked 18 year olds to play in the NBA. This would, in theory, be an entire league of players, not 12 a year.

Point 4: I'm sure the NFL would never consider it as long as the NCAA is willing to provide them a minor league for free. The question is, what would happen if the NCAA decided that 50% graduation rates in bullshit majors for kids using the school for exposure for the pros doesn't dovetail with the mission of higher education?

hfhmilkman

June 8th, 2011 at 8:03 AM ^

Here is my attempt at a solution.  I claim to have no data to back me up as I have done no research.  So this is all based on perceptions.  Hockey seems to be an expensive sport.  The equipment runs into the hundreds of dollars even for pee wee leagues.  And you need a rink which is horriblye expensive to run.  Yet there is a viable NHL minor league.  Does the NHL support all the semipro minors clubs?  Do those clubs generate any revenue?

What if DivII and DivIII schools operated under different rules?  If your not interested in a four year degree program or expect to ever graduate go to a community college with a program.  While there a player if free to have an agent out of HS, take advances from an agent, or money from a Youngstown booster.  If you take this path you can go into the NFL as soon as a team drafts you.  In this way no NFL team is having to invest in a farm club.  The community colleges become the farm clubs.

Why this may not work.  Were just passing the filth to someone else.  The biggest problem is that ultimately there are only a few players who can command decent money.  Even half of the players with a 5 star next to their name as HS seniors are not going to be viable NFL players.  Only 5-10% of the of the four stars at most will have a sniff at the NFL.

Lastly it does not deal with the reason many boosters give players money.  Most do not do it for financial reasons.  There seems to be a segment of people who get off on being associated with star atheletes.  So even if you get all the one and doners out, you will still have shady types who will want to peddle influence on kids.