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|4 days 7 hours ago||Springfield HS.||
The coach is Mo Douglass, who used to be at Trotwood-Madison. He's sent us McCray, Roundtree, Michael Shaw; Harbaugh did a camp there this year. Whatever happens with Taylor, we won't get shut out of that program. OSU will get their share as well, just like they did at Trotwood.
|1 week 2 days ago||A lot of people who don't||
A lot of people who don't have any trouble getting laid visit brothels. Some of them prefer sex that's paid for--it changes the dynamic in a way that they like. Some of them have preferences that aren't so easily satisfied on the street and may not be available at all in the village.
All those customers on the sex junkets to Thailand--do you think they aren't getting any sex at home, or do they have another reason?
|1 week 2 days ago||I honestly wonder which is||
I honestly wonder which is the better marketing strategy. If I'm shopping at a dollar store I'm not sure I want to see overt signs that the business is exceptionally profitable.
|1 week 2 days ago||Why go to a brothel when there's sex aplenty?||
Some people prefer sex that's been paid for.
And some people have preferences that are easier to satisfy in a brothel than on the street or in the village.
|1 week 2 days ago||At this point we don't know||
At this point we don't know what allegation we're talking about. Several suspicions have been tossed about; you and I each apparently have our preferences among them.
Maybe the truth will be more clear when Lochte takes off his sunglasses.
|1 week 2 days ago||Depends on what you did while||
Depends on what you did while you were there.
|1 week 2 days ago||That's the image in some people's minds.||
In others, the image is of someone finally standing up to the very worst stereotype of American tourists.
|1 week 2 days ago||Depends on the||
Depends on the circumstances.
If it were suspected that a foreign national had filed a false report of a crime in an attempt to cover his involvement in prostitution or a drug deal--and that's one of the scenarios proposed as plausible here--you can be absolutely sure he'd be detained by authorities.
|1 week 2 days ago||Because when you start your||
Because when you start your phone call home with "Mom, my pants got stolen and I need you to cancel all my credit cards" things can go to hell in a hurry.
|1 week 4 days ago||What's worse...||
...is that if it had happened most years in the last decade we'd probably have had some people criticizing RR or Hoke for not backing down.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I think Chicago played it just right.||
They were the first school to build their reputation around football--it was "Stagg's University" from the outset after all, and then they added to it even further by dropping the sport.
If they'd stuck around they'd be a laughingstock: tiny undergraduate student body, all the disadvantages of Northwestern and Rice and Vanderbilt but magnified. The long-term PR effect of dropping the sport, of announcing to the country that their academic reputation is so pristine that they don't need high-level athletics, is far better than what they would get out of losing a lot of football games.
They've done it both ways, and that makes them unique. I can't imagine how things could have gone better for them.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||St. John's (MN), at least||
St. John's (MN), at least while Gagliardi was there.
Grudging respect for Wittenberg. More than 10% of the male student body is on the football team, more than 30% of the overall student body is playing intercollegiate athletics, and they're successful at everything. That athletic department is doing something right.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||And if somebody doesn't like the NCAA's rules...||
...they can play NAIA. Or go to Canada.
I know it's not the same, but NASCAR isn't Formula 1, either.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Not a degree in football...||
...but a degree in "athletic performance." We have similar degrees for artists, for musicians, for dancers and actors. Why not athletes?
And it wouldn't have be any more of a dilution of academics than those other degrees. Musicians can't just play their instruments, they're required to take real courses in music history and theory and to satisfy all the usual requirements for a bachelor's degree. They often take courses in music education, too, to prepare for the possibility that their performance career won't take off.
Couldn't we do the same for athletes, whether as an expansion of existing phys ed departments or as a new program altogether? Require courses in kinesiology, in sports management? Offer a selection of tracks that would guarantee that each player that left with a degree also left with a fallback option as agent or coach or front-office staff. Give players credit for the time spent mastering their sport, then provide the kind of education that will best prepare them to cope with the demands of the career and their life after retirement, or to adjust if the professional career never happens.
I understand the practical hurdles something like this would face; I don't understand why there would be a theoretical objection.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||One of things I didn't understand when I wrote this...||
...was why it mattered so much to Oberlin to make that train. This wasn't the only road game that year that they put a time limit on to make sure they made their transportation home. But why? If they'd missed the train and had to find lodging in Ann Arbor, so what?
I've just learned they had damn good reason.
Oberlin's student body had fought a long struggle to get the school's approval for intercollegiate football. When the college faculty finally, grudgingly, consented, part of the deal was that football must never, ever, be allowed to interfere with any student's attendance at compulsory chapel. Sunday football was unthinkable, of course, but the students had wanted to schedule a game for Thanksgiving, which was also a day of compulsory service. So the law was laid down.
If they'd missed their train and spent the night in Ann Arbor, they'd have missed Sunday morning bible class, their prayer meeting, the chapel service. And that would have meant an instant death penalty for the football program, and probably for intercollegiate athletics at the school altogether.
That's how tenuous college athletics was, at the start. The same year Oberlin's students finally got permission, Ohio State's president relented as well: he'd been refusing to allow students to play football on the grounds that it might interfere with their studies!
We've come a long way in the last 125 years, and not all the changes have been for the good.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Coffee as a hobby...||
Anyone else roast their own?
I've been at it for about 15 years or so. I never come up with anything to the standards of the best commercial roasters (Intelligentsia, Peets before they went public, Tribal Grounds before she went bankrupt) but it's usually passable and it's a lot of fun. Sort of like homebrewing except it doesn't take nearly as long.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||But for just $180,000...||
...he'll take back the downvotes.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Do the academics really have that much say in the matter?||
I've been reading a book on 1890s football, was thinking about how the list of prominent football powers changed in the decades following, and realized that one of the strongest predictors was who held institutional power.
The faculties at a lot of schools were opposed to athletics at the start, and while they were eventually won over almost everywhere by "sound mind in a sound body" arguments their opposition returned whenever a threat to academic performance was perceived. Schools where the faculty truly runs the show and the administration ultimately serves at the whim of the faculty council--I'm thinking of Oberlin here because I'm familiar with the place but it's true at a lot of now-smallish LACs--wound up deemphasizing football or dropping it altogether. Schools run by their administration and/or their boards of trustees were more willing to enter the football arms race.
Until tonight I was thinking there probably wasn't much of a causal relationship here, that what really mattered was the public/private divide. Public schools are of necessity run by their boards; public schools grew enormously after WW1 and even more with the GI bill; the correlation between board control and athletic significance is an artefact of a shared cause.
But this UNC stuff has me wondering if there isn't some direct effect after all. I suspect there are more than a few trustees for whom the athletic department, and in particular the basketball program, is ultimately more important than the academic reputation of the school. From a business perspective maybe that's even a sensible position. From an academic perspective, not so much.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Wasan't that pushed back a year?||
Last I heard they were going to get the suites done before the 2016-17 season started, and then hold off on the major renovations until after the season was done. They'll have no home court in 2017-2018.
But maybe it's changed again. Seems like they come out with a new plan every few months.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||Can't speak for Michigan on this...||
...but at at least one school I attended, the percentage of students hanging out at any given time at the black student union that were white was bigger than the percentage of students on the whole damn campus that were black.
Put another way, every quad and building on campus was a White Student Union.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I was thinking maybe...||
...a cryonic suspension.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||In the settlement agreement||
In the settlement agreement that we've seen (there was a link here a while back) the only stipulation was that the victim couldn't discuss the settlement or settlement negotiations. There was nothing to prohibit them from talking about the crime itself.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||That's all fine with me.||
All I'm trying to say is that the behavior's entirely believable to me without need for any further motivation. There's no reason to suspect blackmail, for example. I think ijohnb's suggestion elsewhere on the thread is right on point.
It was a bit ironic to have been accused of defending the man. I've never particularly liked him, and I think it was precisely because he always struck me as the kind of stubborn cuss that would dig in his heels even when deep down he knew he was wrong. It's not a trait I respect.
But I never imagined it would come to this. Not that I think it's out of character.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Instant karma.||
After what went down at Vanderbilt I think it's a fine piece of cosmic justice. Only good thing to have come out of this awfulness.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I need to check if you really mean that.||
Anyone that has even an inkling that an act might have been possible is obliged to anonymously report it to the police?
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I think it's just the opposite.||
People don't want to admit that this was once not so uncommon, that their own parents or grandparents or great-grandparents might have part of a generation that was often willing to turn a blind eye, so they have to find Paterno a different motivation.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Those laws are evidence that it was once a "cultural thing."||
It's the eye-turning of earlier generations that were the cause of those laws. We don't have laws defining certain individuals as "mandated reporters" for other crimes, murder for example, because we don't have a history of people ignoring or even simply failing to recognize those crimes.
That many of those laws passed in the mid to late 70s will help you locate the generational shift--that's when there was finally majority support.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Who here is uncomfortable assigning guilt to Paterno?||
Trying to figure out his initial motivation, and assigning it to his old-boy mentality, is only that. It doesn't justify or exonerate him in any way.
I'll admit that I was uncomfortable when somebody suggested, without evidence, that he personally was also a child molester. But I don't think that's what you mean.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||If I were going to calll the police about something...||
...I'd use the "do I have any evidence for what I'm saying" test. I don't call the cops every time I hear a piece of gossip and I don't want to live in a society where it's a social norm to do so.
Apparently that's not true for a lot of people. There's no distinction made between knowing something, vs. hearing about it, vs. "should have figured it out"; they're all equally culpable if they didn't report it to the authorities. On the one hand I can't say I'm surprised, on the other hand it scares the shit out of me.'
|6 weeks 4 days ago||What's wrong with taking a look?||
The same thing that's usually wrong with investigations of "crimes" involving not a single shred of evidence of any kind.