if it takes this how blind/bad is Hoke

that would lower the bar further

yep

Thay are both very avg.

I feel bad for the players

were you at the neb. game?

please!!!!

Timmy- Borges is very bad.  Our only hope is that he gets fired.  The other option is that Brady is the problem and if that is true we are really in trouble

i hope you are wrong or next year will be like this or worse

yes all of it - line, pass blocking of RBs, calling plays that require RBs to pass block, QB play

Bad call knowing Al is going to call the play

Its not just the play calling Al is not a good OC on all levels.

Agree on both points - i thought both running backs looked good tonight

Nice group tonight

I really like Hoke but I am not sure he is smart enough to fire Al.

Thanks for your service!  This has been the most disappointing year (M-football) I have experienced in 40 years.  Starting to bring back memories of the Millen years.

Wow after all the crap that happened you go after Glasgow.  If I was going to single out players he would be way down the list.

Too the point where the def. is beating the offence to the point of attack?  It's like sharks with blood in the watwer.

makes you think some of the rumors are true - the def. wasn't the problem last week.  The off. looks as bad as always!  Lets keep a RB in that can't block.

Hate  to say it but I bet we would have been better off with Jerry Kill and his staff at Minn.

I agree

Just rewatched the first half and start of second.  Devin was taking a long time to get rid of the ball 4-5 sec even on short passes.  State was getting rid of the ball much faster around 3 sec.  I like Devin but he looked unsure of himself out there.  Early second half he was locking onto Gal. even when he had all the time in the world. 

Borges needs to go and the coaches need to take a look at some players.