At no time was the score 21-7; when your 'oops I did something bad' is three types of errors on four drives, it's possible that you just aren't a very good team.
Not so much to the Phil Knight Death Star. Might be one of those things where nobody feels like dealing with the legal foolishness and writes off the cost. Fishy, but not obvious-to-the-point-of-major-violations-fishy IMHO.
The real question is: did Oregon ever deal with this huckster before, and/or did they continue to do so afterwards?
I think some of the arguments put forth there are well reasoned and honest, but naturally I fall on this side of the line when all is said and done. I cannot see a rational NCAA* levying punishments weaker than USC.
I was generally sans internet for a number of days - any sort of previous post regarding feature set etc? Other than a general /. feel I don't know what is going on.
However I would hope that every man to ever play college football feels the same way about his alma mater. It just can't drive every decision made about the program.
There's some reasonable distribution of labor in terms of bringing in outside blood and attempting to instill traditions. I won't claim I know what that distribution is - the new guy shouldn't be 100% responsible for digging up all these random Holy of Holies in the tradition-pile, but neither should they forego any sort of proactive research and expect to be handed a sheet of everything as soon as they walk in the door.
I wonder what that ideal distribution is, compared to what RRod experienced. I know that when I first attended either of my alma maters, older students made every effort to pass on to us what we should know, what we should do, who we should be. Given the WR#1 fiasco/nonsense, what was the situation here?
This Minnesotan was pulling for UMD, but there's no shame in the result tonight. One team would win, which meant one had to lose. Michigan played a fine game of hockey; it ended up not being quite enough. That's how life goes sometimes.
Congratulations to both sides for getting so far in such a crazy system as the NCAA hockey tournament, and additional congratulations to UMD for being that little bit better.
FUCK YOU NORTH FUCKING DAKOTA I HATE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS SO FUCKING MUCH AND I AM SUPER SUPER EXICTED THAT THE RED RIVER IS ABOUT TO FLOOD MORE THAN USUAL AND, GOD WILLING, IT WILL WIPE THE RALPH OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
And one baby one serving the very few people in the stadium who can't see the big board easily. It's nearly an open horseshoe, with the big board in the end of it.
Can't fathom the loons upthread who think that it's less than a beautiful stadium on the outside...
I certainly care a great deal about beating North ****ing Dakota more than just every time we play them. People who root for Iowa and Wisconsin merely make bad life choices. People who root for UNfD are actually bad people. Were their program to sink into the doldrums or, god willing, fold due to lack of UMN/Wiscy money, I would dance around the grave. Because Ralph was a Nazi, etc.
I cannot overstate my hatred for North ****ing Dakota.
People in WA sure as hell did care about the Apple Cup. That's the point: you care because they're your rival, not because you're both good. But since that's not the point you were making, that's neither here nor there.
You're certainly right, those are just insult to injury. If the Hypothetical Collegiate Hockey Association were to snatch up Mankato and Bemidji, we would shed half a tear.
And to hell with North Dakota. May the Red River wash them away. It's losing State and Duluth that really burns me. Non-conference is better than nothing but it is not a satisfactory answer. It's going to feel like a particularly venomous exhibition game.
It's 'butthurt' to say that you're angry about losing three major longstanding conference rivalries, and your home conference, a conference of which you were a founding member, in favor of being forced to play teams with whom you have no historical ties, one of which will only exist because some rich alum wrote a check?
We already have a cup. It includes our fifth major D1 hockey team, one which you've conveniently left out. They made a Frozen Four recently; you might have heard of them. Bemoobi or something.
I didn't say the WCHA played fantastic hockey this year or any other. I said the WCHA played hockey I really care about this season. I hope the distinction is obvious. Go ask someone in the state of Washington how much they cared about their Cougars and Huskies playing for the 2008 Apple Cup (combined record going into the game: 1-20).
Excuse me? Did you raise a massive stink about the very possibility that tOSU might not be the last game of the season? Yet you tell me to grin and bear it as I lose three major rivals on my conference schedule?
A Big Ten Hockey conference may be great for you. It is doing my state and my university no favors.
As a Minnesotan, I hate this all so very very much. I care infinitely more about playing Duluth or SCSU than I do about playing tOSU, never mind a Penn State program that doesn't even exist yet.
When all of this first came out, I was rather sympathetic to Tressel's position. Not so much anymore. I agree that he really ought to be on his way out of Columbus, and that that still shouldn't be enough to satisfy the NCAA's hunger.
In all fariness, tOSU also has more varsity sports than any other D1A program. I don't know what fraction of secondary violations are the women's curling coach saying 'oops, I called that girl on the wrong day', but it's something to keep in mind.
Shrug. I want to beat Tressel every time, but I still respect the man as much as 80% of D1A coaches. I don't fully disagree with aforementioned tOSU poster.
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I was attempting internet-irony, which is only a slightly higher degree of difficulty than the underwater flame-ring triple axel.
Back in my day, every student saw every other Pac-10 team twice in their four years and that was how we liked it.
At no time was the score 21-7; when your 'oops I did something bad' is three types of errors on four drives, it's possible that you just aren't a very good team.
Certainly as late as the mid-1990s Minnesota felt otherwise.
Not so much to the Phil Knight Death Star. Might be one of those things where nobody feels like dealing with the legal foolishness and writes off the cost. Fishy, but not obvious-to-the-point-of-major-violations-fishy IMHO.
The real question is: did Oregon ever deal with this huckster before, and/or did they continue to do so afterwards?
I think some of the arguments put forth there are well reasoned and honest, but naturally I fall on this side of the line when all is said and done. I cannot see a rational NCAA* levying punishments weaker than USC.
*oblig. disclaimer goes here
broken link is broken.
It's a nice nod to the old logo. Tying into history is important.
D1 athletics is the only reason I know of the existence of EMU.
Not to say that that's enough to make the expendature worth it...
F*** Clemson.
My Minnesota classmates had four years of WIN FIGHT TRY Timmy B.
Your move, Michigan.
I was generally sans internet for a number of days - any sort of previous post regarding feature set etc? Other than a general /. feel I don't know what is going on.
However I would hope that every man to ever play college football feels the same way about his alma mater. It just can't drive every decision made about the program.
"Mailbag: Brian gets told of a different opinion"
There's some reasonable distribution of labor in terms of bringing in outside blood and attempting to instill traditions. I won't claim I know what that distribution is - the new guy shouldn't be 100% responsible for digging up all these random Holy of Holies in the tradition-pile, but neither should they forego any sort of proactive research and expect to be handed a sheet of everything as soon as they walk in the door.
I wonder what that ideal distribution is, compared to what RRod experienced. I know that when I first attended either of my alma maters, older students made every effort to pass on to us what we should know, what we should do, who we should be. Given the WR#1 fiasco/nonsense, what was the situation here?
/vomits
Some of the comments here had me wondering if I was watching the same game. Michigan played well, UMD played better. Them's the breaks.
This Minnesotan was pulling for UMD, but there's no shame in the result tonight. One team would win, which meant one had to lose. Michigan played a fine game of hockey; it ended up not being quite enough. That's how life goes sometimes.
Congratulations to both sides for getting so far in such a crazy system as the NCAA hockey tournament, and additional congratulations to UMD for being that little bit better.
...and that M (the other M) hockey was just around the corner. Do you realize how hard it is to make a Minnesotan wish for late fall right now?
It's pretty hard.
They're all like that.
That gif literally made my week.
FUCK YOU NORTH FUCKING DAKOTA I HATE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS SO FUCKING MUCH AND I AM SUPER SUPER EXICTED THAT THE RED RIVER IS ABOUT TO FLOOD MORE THAN USUAL AND, GOD WILLING, IT WILL WIPE THE RALPH OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
MUPPETS MUPPETS MUPPETS
And one baby one serving the very few people in the stadium who can't see the big board easily. It's nearly an open horseshoe, with the big board in the end of it.
Can't fathom the loons upthread who think that it's less than a beautiful stadium on the outside...
Ringed with score, stats, and ads. It's still charmingly huge from anywhere in the stadium, but it's not THAT huge in practice.
http://blogs.twincities.com/gophersshack/assets_c/2009/08/Picture%20003…
That's how it looks in real-life use.
Any idiots who go to Rice Park for that (WTF!?) deserve what they get.
Stuff on Grand or Selby: fun
Stuff downtown: in my experience, not particularly fun
Stuff in mpls: well, we all know that that's the better city anyway. But don't go downtown, because downtown is dumb
The WCHA logo thing has been there a while. 1) I go there a lot and it looks familiar. 2) Inspection of the website code suggests:
onload="MM_preloadImages('../images/2010design/nav/homenav/teams2.jpg','.
./images/2010design/nav/homenav/stand2.jpg','.
./images/2010design/nav/homenav/sched2.jpg','.
./images/2010design/nav/homenav/stats2.jpg','
../images/2010design/nav/homenav/wcha2.jpg','.
./images/2010design/nav/homenav/tourney2.jpg','..
/images/2010design/nav/homenav/media2.jpg','
../images/2010design/nav/homenav/tickets2.jpg','
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Note constant repetition of '2010'. It's a BSU/UNO-addition legacy.
/posbang'd for truthiness
/looks away from heresy for a moment
I certainly care a great deal about beating North ****ing Dakota more than just every time we play them. People who root for Iowa and Wisconsin merely make bad life choices. People who root for UNfD are actually bad people. Were their program to sink into the doldrums or, god willing, fold due to lack of UMN/Wiscy money, I would dance around the grave. Because Ralph was a Nazi, etc.
I cannot overstate my hatred for North ****ing Dakota.
I was starting to wonder if your type still frequented these fair pages. The curtailing of direct service to Bolivia has not helped the world.
But thank you.
Fair enough. Well then, you should revise your sig, or maybe move about four hours SE. It'd suit you there.
Fair enough. I happen to disagree with them too.
People in WA sure as hell did care about the Apple Cup. That's the point: you care because they're your rival, not because you're both good. But since that's not the point you were making, that's neither here nor there.
You're certainly right, those are just insult to injury. If the Hypothetical Collegiate Hockey Association were to snatch up Mankato and Bemidji, we would shed half a tear.
And to hell with North Dakota. May the Red River wash them away. It's losing State and Duluth that really burns me. Non-conference is better than nothing but it is not a satisfactory answer. It's going to feel like a particularly venomous exhibition game.
It's 'butthurt' to say that you're angry about losing three major longstanding conference rivalries, and your home conference, a conference of which you were a founding member, in favor of being forced to play teams with whom you have no historical ties, one of which will only exist because some rich alum wrote a check?
I'm seriously not allowed to find that upsetting?
I truthfully don't know what to tell you.
Every time I think I know how petty members of this fanbase can me, a couple of y'all manage to surprise me.
Well that was... classy.
We already have a cup. It includes our fifth major D1 hockey team, one which you've conveniently left out. They made a Frozen Four recently; you might have heard of them. Bemoobi or something.
I didn't say the WCHA played fantastic hockey this year or any other. I said the WCHA played hockey I really care about this season. I hope the distinction is obvious. Go ask someone in the state of Washington how much they cared about their Cougars and Huskies playing for the 2008 Apple Cup (combined record going into the game: 1-20).
It's about the rivalry, not the record.
Excuse me? Did you raise a massive stink about the very possibility that tOSU might not be the last game of the season? Yet you tell me to grin and bear it as I lose three major rivals on my conference schedule?
A Big Ten Hockey conference may be great for you. It is doing my state and my university no favors.
I would go with 'apoplectic'. It'd be even worse if we hadn't seen this coming for a year.
As a Minnesotan, I hate this all so very very much. I care infinitely more about playing Duluth or SCSU than I do about playing tOSU, never mind a Penn State program that doesn't even exist yet.
The last D1 sport where the small schools could compete with the large. Sure couldn't let that stand!
/rage and sadness
It looks like a West Virginian couch (ie: on fire).
Thanks a million, Pitt and Louisville. I thought I was hating on the Big East enough as it was. You sure showed me.
I logged in just to negbang this.
We don't really have a prayer, IMHO. Minnesota is done for the year.
When all of this first came out, I was rather sympathetic to Tressel's position. Not so much anymore. I agree that he really ought to be on his way out of Columbus, and that that still shouldn't be enough to satisfy the NCAA's hunger.
In all fariness, tOSU also has more varsity sports than any other D1A program. I don't know what fraction of secondary violations are the women's curling coach saying 'oops, I called that girl on the wrong day', but it's something to keep in mind.
Shrug. I want to beat Tressel every time, but I still respect the man as much as 80% of D1A coaches. I don't fully disagree with aforementioned tOSU poster.
Verily. I haven't been watching closely - has there been any talk of when that might change?
How can it be Spring Break in February!?
Thanks for almost beating Wisconsin again, Steven. Enjoy your intact brain.