This is an excellent picture of his skates still on the ice at moment of impact. Thank you! It's not evidence of an elbow. Why? Because even this image is completely fine if it - the elbow up like this - is the follow through. Which it was. And do you know what else it's a great example of? Optical illusion. Why? Because if you couple this image up with the video from the opposite angle it is clear as day that Trouba lead with his shoulder with his elbow tucked and his elbow only gets to the position shown in this image after his arm is beyond Necas' head. And so what looks like a "lead with the elbow" is actually an elbow that is completely past Necas and behind his head.
Yep, that’s the rule I figured would be cited, except… he didn’t jump, so the rule doesn’t apply. As for the elbow missing the head… that isn’t a think if Necas doesn’t duck out. Both of which are why it wasn’t a penalty and it won’t be reviewed for supplemental discipline.
And that's on Necas, not Trouba. If Necas doesn't duck out from the hit, there are no skates near his neck. This is akin to when players turn out of a hit, resulting in a dangerous hit from behind. When that happens last minute the onus of that dangerous situation is on the player being hit (not on the player making the hit).
Isn’t it more proof positive that a collection of mid-round NFL draftees and close-but-not-quite draftees will beat a team loaded with only a few top end draftees? The “victory lap” by OSU is wild because it really proves the inverse: OSU only had FOUR draftees?!?
or spring game came and went and he’s not confident about his playing time.
Other option: spring game came and went and he's absolutely confident about how absolutely awful they looked (and what that portends for the upcoming season).
”but the in-game data doesn’t match the spring game performances.”
Just ask yourself this: does the in game play calling for his plays match the spring game performances? Clearly, no. Nor does who he is playing with, the intensity of the game, etc. It’s ludicrous to draw this conclusion about someone the program really clearly likes.
I don’t think it’s fair what it said in the main page article about Warren and it not being real in games in past seasons. It’s not like he was a chance to show what he can do in meaningful snaps last year. It just seems like a weird conclusion…
The problem is the lens that people are looking at Harbaugh through. It’s really simple: he doesn’t think he did what they accused him of and so he’s not going to admit to it just to make it go away. Some people are that rigid on truth, yes.
Listening to the Cover 3 Podcast and Bud Elliott sounds pretty convinced that the way he's building his team is for the short term.
What that is, right there, is an antiquated way of building a team. Sanders has been very clear about what his approach is, and it's just different. It definitely makes sense why folks who believe in the traditional approach would call it "short term" but they are missing what is actually happening (and where recruiting is going).
You can't make that list calling things "lucky" without then saying that USC was "lucky" to win in Boulder. Not that USC was great, mind you, but Colorado should have won that game.
In more ways than one. In particular, the cacophony saying that Harbaugh was a gimmick and that it wouldn't resonate with today's players. How did that work out?
Yep, this. He absolutely wasn't wrong about his "take your shots now" and time will show that to be true. The multitudes in here laughing and saying what he does is a gimmick and that what he's doing doesn't work quite frankly don't know what they are talking about. When it does work there is going to be a lot of crow to eat. And it'll be fun to watch!
If Washington wins, unfortunately nothing else matters for anyone. The silver lining is that Philadelphia has to win in regulation or they’re done. If Washington gets one point, Philadelphia is eliminated and then it’ll come down to what the Wings and Penguins do. If Washington gets no points, Washington is eliminated and then it’ll come down to what the Wings and Penguins do.
He's a better prospect than those stats suggest and I would bank that Naurato knows best on this one. Stein was a member of the 2021 US WJC team that won gold (this was the team with York, Beniers, and Brisson). He didn't play in the tournament, but being on that team means something. Most likely a bridge goalie for the prospects coming in, but someone who will be able to make an impact.
I wasn’t. I was simply pointing out a factual inconsistency. I guarantee you the person I was responding to had no idea that SLC is in a desert. Because… pretty much no one does.
No, and not to sound alarmist, because I sure recognize it sounds that way, it will be. More financially, than anything (which I think we are saying the same thing about). Vegas is going to have the same problem. It’s not just that it’s a desert, but a function of how western water rights work. Which then raises the “to where” question. I do think you’re right about being cost prohibitive, but that’s ultimately the point. That WILL be a financial catastrophe when the moment finally comes and everyone needs to get out.
I recognize the /s there, but this (ie water) truly is going to be a catastrophe for people living in that area. Quite literally, they are going to be screwed.
Sorry… to clarify: the part I was specifically wondering about was the backing into spots annoyance. That seemed to be the particular ire raising aspect and I have literally no idea why (beyond what you said about taking up sidewalk).
Indeed. This. And what chocks my guff is the people who think it’s their job to force the merge a mile before the merge point (without realizing that they, themselves, are just backing traffic up further).
The Wings own the tie breaker with the Islanders but have split so far with the Pens, Caps and Sabers.
That doesn’t come into play until the fourth tiebreaker. When it comes to the first tiebreaker the Wings are (currently) in the weakest spot of all of the teams in the mix, unfortunately - only 28 “RW” wins. If it gets to the second tiebreaker (“ROW”), they are in the best spot of all of those teams, though.
More importantly there are three games with teams they are competing with for that last spot (Buffalo, Washington, and Pittsburgh). Those are absolute must win games because of the four point swing in each of those - and perhaps as importantly, really need to be regulation wins.
It’s really six teams, as Buffalo has an outside chance still (albeit it slim). Wings still have the best chance because even though they lost they simply lost the game in hand (and to the best team remaining on their schedule). That said, the four Metropolitan teams legitimately have the best chance, as those four are playing for two paths (division 3 seed or wild card), whereas the Wings have just one path (wild card).
This. Absolutely nothing like the every day room experience on a hockey team. The room experience in other sport remotely compares, either. I’ve tried hard to explain this to my wife, as to why that is, but really never can get it quite right.
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That's... completely legal.
This is an excellent picture of his skates still on the ice at moment of impact. Thank you! It's not evidence of an elbow. Why? Because even this image is completely fine if it - the elbow up like this - is the follow through. Which it was. And do you know what else it's a great example of? Optical illusion. Why? Because if you couple this image up with the video from the opposite angle it is clear as day that Trouba lead with his shoulder with his elbow tucked and his elbow only gets to the position shown in this image after his arm is beyond Necas' head. And so what looks like a "lead with the elbow" is actually an elbow that is completely past Necas and behind his head.
Because the are clear images of this from two different angles in this thread showing his skates still on the ice at the moment of impact.
Yep, that’s the rule I figured would be cited, except… he didn’t jump, so the rule doesn’t apply. As for the elbow missing the head… that isn’t a think if Necas doesn’t duck out. Both of which are why it wasn’t a penalty and it won’t be reviewed for supplemental discipline.
And that's on Necas, not Trouba. If Necas doesn't duck out from the hit, there are no skates near his neck. This is akin to when players turn out of a hit, resulting in a dangerous hit from behind. When that happens last minute the onus of that dangerous situation is on the player being hit (not on the player making the hit).
Exactly this. 100% not a penalty. It's only even a conversation because Necas went down, which makes it look bad. Thanks for providing this.
He definitely didn't.
Provide the rule and language that says it's a penalty in the NHL to leave one's feet on the follow through of a hit.
Match penalty? For what?
There is nothing at all against the rules with how he initiated this hit. Nothing at all.
“which has become slow, bloated with more ads than actual sport, and borderline un-watchable over the past few years”
I don’t get this. Over the last two seasons, with the changes they’ve made, this hasn’t been my experience at all.
In fairness, Harbaugh didn’t do that. We still have that guy (thankfully).
Probably one of the least surprising position groups for transfers…
Isn’t it more proof positive that a collection of mid-round NFL draftees and close-but-not-quite draftees will beat a team loaded with only a few top end draftees? The “victory lap” by OSU is wild because it really proves the inverse: OSU only had FOUR draftees?!?
Other option: spring game came and went and he's absolutely confident about how absolutely awful they looked (and what that portends for the upcoming season).
If they threw it backward it would be rushing stats, not passing stats, so…
From a fan perspective, or an athlete perspective?
”but the in-game data doesn’t match the spring game performances.”
Just ask yourself this: does the in game play calling for his plays match the spring game performances? Clearly, no. Nor does who he is playing with, the intensity of the game, etc. It’s ludicrous to draw this conclusion about someone the program really clearly likes.
I don’t think it’s fair what it said in the main page article about Warren and it not being real in games in past seasons. It’s not like he was a chance to show what he can do in meaningful snaps last year. It just seems like a weird conclusion…
And teams that wear black are statistically more likely to be penalized, as well.
The problem is the lens that people are looking at Harbaugh through. It’s really simple: he doesn’t think he did what they accused him of and so he’s not going to admit to it just to make it go away. Some people are that rigid on truth, yes.
What that is, right there, is an antiquated way of building a team. Sanders has been very clear about what his approach is, and it's just different. It definitely makes sense why folks who believe in the traditional approach would call it "short term" but they are missing what is actually happening (and where recruiting is going).
You can't make that list calling things "lucky" without then saying that USC was "lucky" to win in Boulder. Not that USC was great, mind you, but Colorado should have won that game.
In more ways than one. In particular, the cacophony saying that Harbaugh was a gimmick and that it wouldn't resonate with today's players. How did that work out?
Yep, this. He absolutely wasn't wrong about his "take your shots now" and time will show that to be true. The multitudes in here laughing and saying what he does is a gimmick and that what he's doing doesn't work quite frankly don't know what they are talking about. When it does work there is going to be a lot of crow to eat. And it'll be fun to watch!
That’s correct. Only comes into play if Philadelphia wins in regulation.
If Washington wins, unfortunately nothing else matters for anyone. The silver lining is that Philadelphia has to win in regulation or they’re done. If Washington gets one point, Philadelphia is eliminated and then it’ll come down to what the Wings and Penguins do. If Washington gets no points, Washington is eliminated and then it’ll come down to what the Wings and Penguins do.
Pittsburgh would with 32 regulation wins. They would also in four-way tie at 89 points.
He's a better prospect than those stats suggest and I would bank that Naurato knows best on this one. Stein was a member of the 2021 US WJC team that won gold (this was the team with York, Beniers, and Brisson). He didn't play in the tournament, but being on that team means something. Most likely a bridge goalie for the prospects coming in, but someone who will be able to make an impact.
Yes indeed!
I wasn’t. I was simply pointing out a factual inconsistency. I guarantee you the person I was responding to had no idea that SLC is in a desert. Because… pretty much no one does.
No, and not to sound alarmist, because I sure recognize it sounds that way, it will be. More financially, than anything (which I think we are saying the same thing about). Vegas is going to have the same problem. It’s not just that it’s a desert, but a function of how western water rights work. Which then raises the “to where” question. I do think you’re right about being cost prohibitive, but that’s ultimately the point. That WILL be a financial catastrophe when the moment finally comes and everyone needs to get out.
I recognize the /s there, but this (ie water) truly is going to be a catastrophe for people living in that area. Quite literally, they are going to be screwed.
”The Coyotes AHL affiliate was also nicknamed the Roadrunners. That fun Coyotes/Roadrunners link will likely go away.”
The Roadrunners came first, so I don’t know that I would come to that conclusion.
“Much more sense than having an NHL team in a desert.”
Hate to break it to you that Salt Lake City too is located in a desert.
It wasn’t what he knew, but rather what he did. Can’t have that, no matter how BS the investigation is/was.
I thought it was pretty clear that this was a COVID-related ADA accommodation?
Yeah, there’s zero mystery there with respect to Michigan. It IS interesting that he never got a look anywhere else, through.
Sorry… to clarify: the part I was specifically wondering about was the backing into spots annoyance. That seemed to be the particular ire raising aspect and I have literally no idea why (beyond what you said about taking up sidewalk).
Ha! As someone who lives in a spring break destination (and whose roads are finally back to being blissfully normal) this made me laugh out loud!
Indeed. This. And what chocks my guff is the people who think it’s their job to force the merge a mile before the merge point (without realizing that they, themselves, are just backing traffic up further).
It’s less safe to ride a bike on the sidewalk.
I would actually love to know the reason why on this one. Fascinating!
In fairness, I don’t think Ohio State is THAT well regarded for its fruit agriculture program, so I’m not sure I can reach that conclusion.
That doesn’t come into play until the fourth tiebreaker. When it comes to the first tiebreaker the Wings are (currently) in the weakest spot of all of the teams in the mix, unfortunately - only 28 “RW” wins. If it gets to the second tiebreaker (“ROW”), they are in the best spot of all of those teams, though.
More importantly there are three games with teams they are competing with for that last spot (Buffalo, Washington, and Pittsburgh). Those are absolute must win games because of the four point swing in each of those - and perhaps as importantly, really need to be regulation wins.
It’s really six teams, as Buffalo has an outside chance still (albeit it slim). Wings still have the best chance because even though they lost they simply lost the game in hand (and to the best team remaining on their schedule). That said, the four Metropolitan teams legitimately have the best chance, as those four are playing for two paths (division 3 seed or wild card), whereas the Wings have just one path (wild card).
This. Absolutely nothing like the every day room experience on a hockey team. The room experience in other sport remotely compares, either. I’ve tried hard to explain this to my wife, as to why that is, but really never can get it quite right.
This view ignores the fact that the S&C coach runs the team, and is the day to day face to the players, for more than half of the calendar year.
Like his credits from Yale will transfer. Right…