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|3 years 46 weeks ago||We won. Or am I missing||
We won. Or am I missing something? Who gives a rats ass about this. They spent a shitload of time looking at it. Replay official made the call. Game over, cue the Maize confetti guns.
Rules aren't perfect. Refs aren't perfect. Replay isn't perfect. None of them ever will be. Except in the Android Football League coming sometime this millenium.
Look. Controversies like this are a part of sports. Every team has somewhere in its history calls like this, both ways. Stop whining.
|3 years 51 weeks ago||Indy or Chicago? Indy or||
Indy or Chicago? Indy or Chicago?
Yeah, ChiTown wins that one every damn time. Having tons of time in both. Indy is the most boring city I know.
That grand in ChiTown gets me a lot more than those two bills in Indy.
|3 years 52 weeks ago||I thought it was funny.||
I thought it was funny. Tasteless, but funny.
But the guy's a dick for doing this, and costing his team the game. If this was after a game winning score, or they were a zillion ahead, fine. But with the game still on the line? Assinine.
|3 years 52 weeks ago||Urban's new graduate ass||
Urban's new graduate ass istant.
|3 years 52 weeks ago||This is Michigan fergodsake.||
This is Michigan fergodsake. Bring it on.
I lived The War. I loved The War. Yeah, it'd be nice to kick their ass for a few years. And it's pathetic that they will skate with the NCAA, and still be able to grab this guy. A few years of Fickel would've been a nice punishment.
This is Michigan. We don't run. We don't hide. So it'll be a little tougher to kick their ass. Makes it that much better when we do.
Recruiting? "Look kid. Where do you want to play? You want to play in The Game? Or go State and hope to play in the Capital One Bowl?" The War was great for recruiting, and we seemed to score a decent kid or two from Ohio. And there are places other than Ohio that play high school football.
Imagine what will happen to them when this guy fails. Or cuts and runs.
And he will.
He's done it before, he'll do it again. Always easier to wimp out the second time. Or third, or fourth, however many times he (un)quit at Florida.
Fuck the Bucks. Fuck Meyer.
|4 years 14 hours ago||Take the professor to the||
Take the professor to the game.
Seriously, you get dropped if you miss the first class? Seriously???? I can't even remember anyone taking attendance.
|4 years 20 hours ago||I really really like this||
I really really like this guy. A class act. And a good coach. With a good coaching staff. They may have RR's kids, but this coaching staff made them the team they were in this game.
A few years of this guy and we might just be asking, "Bo who?"
|4 years 20 hours ago||Seriously, what would turn||
Seriously, what would turn the light on?
Which part of the ball "breaks" which part of the "plane"? Technically, if one atom of the ball is beyond one atom of the front of the goalline it's a touchdown. That's a bit precise.
Where do you put the sensors in the field? Some magnetic strip running the width of the field?A field with 22 angry men running around tearing it up? And how high would it need to reach? Remember, that "plane" is infinitely high. I could jump 6 feet, 8 feet, however high I can above the line.
Where do you put the sensors in/on the ball? You'd need to completely cover the ball, a ball being kicked, thrown, spiked, and otherwise violently handled.
If it was, like soccer, the whole ball completely beyond the whole line, maybe. But I don't think there is a technology that can be as precise as the rule requires.
At best in this play, a few millimeters of the ball are somewhere over that strip of chalk marking the goalline. I don't believe any part of the ball is beyond the goalline.
Still a crappy call.
|4 years 21 hours ago||Can somebody explain o$u||
Can somebody explain o$u spiking the ball on 3rd and 6, after wasting 15 seconds or so? IS there any explanation? I cannot think of any.
|4 years 1 day ago||Amen to that.||
Amen to that.
|4 years 1 day ago||58-43-6 No need to brag.||
No need to brag. We're Michigan. But if it makes you feel better, go ahead.
Happy as I am, on so many levels, this was not our best game. This game should never have been close. Worst Buckey team in a decade and this was too close all the way to the end. If not for that stupid spike on 3rd down, this might have had a different ending.
But this was a great game for Hoke and the whole program. 10-2 (coulda shoulda been 11-1 / 12-0), beat OSU, probable BCS bowl. And exorcised a whole lot of ghosts.
Thanks Brady. Hoke Lives. Go Blue.
|4 years 1 day ago||Never||
Never has there been a group of Michigan seniors that has battled through such adversity and prevailed. Never has Michigan produced a better group of guys.
They stand, today, the greatest group of Michigan Men. Ever.
Thank you to all of them. And best of luck to all in their future.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Big Wherever. Waiting for the||
Big Wherever. Waiting for the Catholic bball teams to bail and start Big East Classic. And leave this monstrosity to be Big East Zero.
The Big East is a basketball conference faking it as a football conference. Kinda worked when VT, BC , and Miami where in it. Would've worked if ND wasn't as arrogant, self-righteous, and greedy as they are.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Cuz he was a West Virginia||
Cuz he was a West Virginia guy.
There are a lot of differences between here and there that he didn't understand. And didn't seem to bother to figure that out. He assumed that what worked there would work here, without bothering to understand the differences and figure out what he needed to do differently.
What did he do here? Success at WVU got him the job. Success at Michigan was needed to keep the job. Michigan was above his level of incompetence.
Bo ran the AD more than the AD ran him. Bo made sure shit got done and he had what he needed to win games on the field. Bo knew he needed to worry about more than the X's and O's if he was going to win games.
I like RR much better after reading the book, so far anyway. But his inability to understand and adapt to the environment around him, to simply keep doing what he'd always done, doesn't score high on the Darwin Scale. Adapt or get your ass fired. Welcome to the Big House.
Nice guy. Great football guy. But wrong fit for Michigan.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Haven't finished the book||
Haven't finished the book yet; not quite up to the Illinois basketball on turf game yet. I thought the book, because Carr and others weren't/refused interviewed, left somethings to conjecture. Epecially why Carr, after trying to get RR to come, became anti-RR. Why he let/pushed kids to transfer, etc.
I skip the RR debate. But it seems to me that RR's problem was he didn't understand that being a head coach is a bigger job than the X's and O's, breaking down film, or recruiting. Managing the program is a big part of it, and he had no interest or talent for it. It was all, "I just want to coach football, I don't want to deal with these distractions."
Wrong. It's about developing and running a program. That means dealing with administrivia, like paperwork on how much time your kids are practicing. It means dealing with past players and coaches. Dealing with alumni and donors. Fundraising, instead of begging for assistant pay raises and better practice facilities. Dealing with media, good and bad. Dealing with all kinds of crap that have nothing to do with X's and O's, but a lot about the quality of the program. A lot about winning happens off the field.
Bo understood that. I think Carr did. RR did not.
Charlie Weiss didn't either. Lots of great coordinators can't make that leap from coaching to managing a team. It's not just about the X's and O's, it's about the program.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Big Ten needs a Hall of Fame.||
Big Ten needs a Hall of Fame. A trip all B1G fans, of all sports, should make kind of place. We got the best history across all sports of any conference. I'm thinking some place on State street. Just a thought.
Nice post, Sparty. For what it's worth, the MSU game was always more of a fun thing than "hate 'em and throw dog crap at 'em" kind of game (who brings dog crap to a game?). Too many of us knew too many of them, we're friends of too many of them, to cross that line. Not that it didn't get heated; but it was more of a "brother borrowed your car and didn't gas it up" kind of thing.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Ending the year in the top||
Ending the year in the top ten would be sweet. A BCS bowl game even sweeter . Winning out and playing in the first B1G championship the sweetest.
Given that few people think this is a great team, that this doesn't fee like a top 10 team, makes me very happy about our future. This is a team that is winning games now. And getting better. Getting more experience in Hoke & Company's system. With more talent coming.
This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end........
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Party at the game. Hell I||
Party at the game. Hell I knew people who could study at the game (for pysch majors it counted as a field trip). Eat nails and shit real bricks, too. (-:
Most of those alumni are the reason the drinking age went back up to 21 and you can't drink at the game anymore. And don't let them tell you different.
But, you're right. We had no out-of-state students until 2008, or so, so there's that. I blame RichRod for bringing in all those out-of-state kids.
The weather was always perfect. It never rained, sleeted, or snowed in Ann Arbor for several decades, like Texas today only worse. Preparties were banned. And trooping out to watch, say, Michigan beat Navy, or somebody, 70-14 was real exciting. Good thing it was such a short walk from Markley.
Classes? Never had one. Study? In engineering school? Are you kidding me?
Look we know it isn't in your DNA the way it is for those of us who grew up with it and thought The Victors was a lullaby. And still hate O$U for going for two, and always will.
And we were always there before kickoff, even the out-of-state engineering students who lived on North Campus. Because it was Michigan Football. And there was no other place you had to be, wanted to be, or needed to be.
You don't know what your missing.
I've got a couple rolls of Woody Hayes toilet paper for you. If you're interested. And can show up on time for a game.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||There are 10 kinds of people||
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||Meh||
Student section ain't what it used to be. Alas. Mostly the team's performance the last few years, maybe, has taken a bit of emotion out of it. That and it appears it's now frowned upon to consume certain beverages, and other things, that might enhance some emotions.
I have taken a goalpost or two down. Even tried to take O$U's down one glorious day, back in the day. Back when the winning streak in the series was our winning streak. Had a pleasant chat with an Ohio trooper carrying a big stick about it. I agreed to leave his goalpost where it was, he agreed not to hit me in the head. All in for Michigan.
So I know something about makin it happen in the student section.
But, here's my $.02
We invented the f'in wave we'll do it when we feel like it.
Here's an idea. Try going vertical with it; you know up and down your section. That would be inventive and cool. And, you'd get to stand up for 0.5 seconds, and we can watch the game.
I'll wear whatever damn shirt I want to wear. Thanks. That's not a Michgan thing, that's copying somebody else's thing.
The alumni section sucked in 1975 and it sucks today. Get over it, kid. Someday you'll be an alum and you'll be sittin with the rest of us. And you'll suck, too.
Show up on time for godssake. We're gonna start sitting in those empty student seats someday. And show you how it's done.
I will say this. Arguing about this shit is a lot more fun that complaining about what's happening on the field. Finally something trivial to fight about while we ALL enjoy the game. Next year, at this time, we might even be arrogant asses again.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||Sad. I've noticed that the||
Sad. I've noticed that the last few years, since I started trekking back for a game a year, or so.
If you can't juggle school, football, and partying you don't belong at Michigan.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||The volleyball play-by-play.||
The volleyball play-by-play. Seriously, you'd think a conference with over 100 years of football tradition and excellence could get better play-by-play and studio talent. Are these just guy who live around Chicago?
Dinardo is a pompous blowhard. Martin is seldom right, but never in doubt - I scream everytime he starts that "as a player, which I was,..." crap. Mason's not too bad , but he comes across like an insurance salesman. The play-by-play calling is generally mediocre, even worse than Brent Musburger.
But, to the earlier point. It is a very new network and this is part of the growing pains, I guess.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||We will look back at these||
We will look back at these guys in a few years like we do the '69 seniors. Or at least I do. Guys who stayed through adversity and became champions. Champions when nobody expected it; nobody thought it could happen.
They were seniors who didn't play before 100,000+ week after week. Didn't play with national championship expectations; hell they played without B1G Championship expectations. Even beating MSU was a big deal; when MSU was the premiere program in the state. History and tradition were a burden, and they were disappointment.
Their HORROR was a buttwhiping in Columbus in '68. This November Brady will go for two after a late TD puts us up by a gazillion, because he can't go for three. O$U's thieves, cheats, and liars will drag themselves off the field; their tatoos a sign of shame and dishonor.
The '69 guys were the foundation for 40 years of greatness. The 2011 seniors are the foundation for the next run of success. We'll savor this, and be more humble, because of the last 4 years; at what these guys have gone through.
Mike Martin is the new Jim Mandich. Though I don't think anyone's carrying him off the field in November.
In a few years 6-0 won't raise an eyebrow. A #10 ranking will be a bit of a disappointment. MSU just another game. And O$U will still be recovering.
Sorry, some of you didn't get to experience North Endzone when Bo ruled the world, drinking age was 18, pot was legal, and Woody Hayes was a face on a roll of toilet paper - and one punch away from retirement. I stood on field in the Horseshoe after the game in '78 engaged in a conversation with an unamused Ohio trooper with a very big stick who didn't like what I was doing to his goal post. My bucket list has me doing it again. Soon. And this time I'll bring a roll of Woody.
There's always grad school. Those who stay.....
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Because that HC is Ron Zook||
Because that HC is Ron Zook
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Looks like my mother-in-law||
Looks like my mother-in-law
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Methinks you're right. He||
Methinks you're right. He knows it, too. Their President is even worse; weasley little twit. E. Gordon Gee, as "gee I didn't know anything did you Gene?" He's holding the bucket of white wash while Smith wields the brush.
Accountability? Integrity? Sportsmanship? F that, I guess. Show me the money.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Schadenfreude.||
|4 years 7 weeks ago||From what I see so far||
From what I see so far removed from AA, this is the biggest difference between this team and the last few years. Much better fundamentals; which was always the hallmark of Michigan football. The defense especially.
Players actually seem to know where they're supposed to be, get there, and do their job when they do get there.
Spread schmed. 335, 411, 911, 666. I-form this, T-form that. None of that matters if the players don't understand their assignments or execute them.
Blocking and tackling, and hitting open receivers. Oh, my.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Depends on what question OP's||
Depends on what question OP's asking? September? Or something else?
Either way, a looooooong time.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||These crooks make SMU look||
These crooks make SMU look like Girl Scouts. D-E-A-T-H P-E-N-A-L-T-Y. The AD and that idiot President of theirs too. A fish rots from the head down.
They are an embarassment to the B1G. Can we vote 'em out of the conference? We could replace them with Cincy, or Miami of Ohio.