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Posey, Herron, Hall Suspension for Nebraska confirmed by Smith

Not totally new information from the topic below, but confirmation via a Smith presser that Posey, Herron and Hall will be out for Nebraska for being overcompensated in a summer job they held with the guy who handed out cash envelopes at the charity event, Bobby DiGeronimo. Mostly small amounts of money, a couple hundred bucks, but Posey received over $700 and will face a longer suspension.  Don't worry though, he'll almost certainly be back by the time they come to Ann Arbor!

Unclear whether the pay occured this summer while they were already under investigation or in years past.

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/10/03/1003-gene-smith-co...

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"I am held accountable," Smith said. "That's why I'm sitting here today. We have to constantly work with our student athletes to educate them about accountability ... and then educate those people around them to ensure that our student athletes aren't taken advantage of by people around them."

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:28 PM | This is great (Score:5 Normal)
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last fall one of my in-laws who is an osu told me about this under the table payment scheme run by his friend's dad's company (DiGeronimo) and I thought he was just gossiping.  Turns out it's true, and awesome.  Wish I would have been the one to spill the beans.

 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:30 PM | They won't be out for the Michigan game... (Score:5 Normal)
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Until the next set of infractions comes to light.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:32 PM | Hmm... (Score:5 Normal)
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Methinks Gene Smith doesn't know what the word "accountable" means.

Denard's 2010 was spent redefining what one man can do.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 PM | If he actually would have (Score:5 Normal)
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If he actually would have been held accountable, then he probably wouldn't be sitting there today.

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:01 PM | Methinks you're right. He (Score:2 Normal)
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Methinks you're right. He knows it, too. Their President is even worse; weasley little twit.  E. Gordon Gee, as "gee I didn't know anything did you Gene?" He's holding the bucket of white wash while Smith wields the brush.

Accountability? Integrity? Sportsmanship? F that, I guess. Show me the money.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM | He's holding the bucket of white wash while Smith wields brush (Score:5 Normal)
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Gee's actually holding Smith's dick while Smith wields the brush.


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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 PM | http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk Y (Score:2 Normal)
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http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

Youtube Embed Fail...

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 PM | I found (Score:4 Funny)
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this drawing of an OSU meeting

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 PM | You keep using that word.  I (Score:5 Normal)
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You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means...

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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:54 PM | and if I could... (Score:3 Normal)
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...a +1 to you, my friend.

 

 

 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 PM | I just hope Smith doesn't (Score:1)
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I just hope Smith doesn't fire me! hahahahaha

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:40 PM | Gene Smith will be lucky to (Score:3 Normal)
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Gene Smith will be lucky to be the AD at Ohio next year.  So when does the NCAA completely crush them?  These problems keep coming out, obviously they don't have control over this program and it's problems.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:53 PM | With maybe the exception of (Score:3 Normal)
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With maybe the exception of MSU, there isn't one Big Ten school that wouldn't have fired him before now. OSU's institutional leadership is just a joke at this point.

Go Blue!

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 PM | OSU's institutional leadership is just a joke at this point. (Score:3 Normal)
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Starting with that bowtie-wearing doofus in the President's office. When the head of the entire University jokes that he's glad the disgraced football coach didn't fire him, he has willingly and enthusiastically dispensed with any remaining shred of dignity and academic integrity.


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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 PM | Re: bowtie-wearing doofus (Score:5 Funny)
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Methinks Gordon Gee should have a celebrity death match with Dhani Jones, and the winner gets to keep wearing a bowtie. 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 PM | I Know I Shouldn't (Score:5 Normal)
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Be looking forward to Nebraska laying a good ol' fashioned beatdown on TSIO, especially since they're in our division, but the thought makes me smile so I have to go with my instincts.

"Blame no one. Expect nothing. Do something. That is attitude." -Bo

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:10 PM | (Score:1)
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ha ha...i agree. when they r humiliated it makes me happy. i just have to b honest

They do the talkin...I do the walkin.

-Charles Woodson

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October 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 PM | Consider it an investment.  A (Score:2 Normal)
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Consider it an investment.  A Nebraska loss helps us this year.  An Ohio State loss inches them one step closer to the decade-long abyss.  You don't just climb out of the abyss.  Ask Miami and USC.

M'Dog

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:47 PM | What's it take for a LOIC (Score:5 Normal)
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More of the same, over and over.  I seem to recall when all of this started, OSU launched an 11 day investigation and determined that the Tats were an isolated incident, the doing of a few misguided youth.  It's quite clear that a) They have no idea what's going on in their program or b) they are always prepared to confess when caught with a smoking gun but deny shooting anybody.

Does anybody think that this leads to a LOIC allegation?

GoBlueNorth

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October 3rd, 2011 at 4:49 PM | Documents (Score:1)
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osu Documents on NCAA Investigation

 

 

 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:36 PM | Wow... (Score:2)
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Two questions regarding those documents:

1.  Why are the students' names not redacted?

2.  Did anyone else notice that the notifications to the NCAA are titled "Self Report to the NCAA" despite the fact that the discoveries were in joint NCAA / OSU investigations resulting from the prior findings?  Looks like an extremely lame and ineffective PR move.  Edit:  Or is it just standard terminology for documents that OSU is required to submit, regardless of how the issue was found?

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:01 PM | Ohio...the gift that keeps on (Score:3 Normal)
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Ohio...the gift that keeps on giving.  I wonder if some of these players knew they would be facing up to seven games of suspensions, whether they would have left the program and gone pro (and sat out five games).

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 PM | The Math (Score:4 Normal)
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Posey likely did not know he was being overpaid.  He received $1,050 for 21.5 hours of work.    $48.83/hour for cleaning cars and picking up scrap metal. I'm moving to Cleveland!!!!     I guess Posey doesn't get paid to coach either.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:07 PM | Favorite new ohio chant (Score:1)
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It's no longer, "O-H-I-O!" It's "UH-OH!"

 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:25 PM | Or.. (Score:5 Funny)
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O-H-N-O!!!

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 PM | "LO-IC" (Score:5 Funny)
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"LO-IC"

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 PM | Smith (Score:2)
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tOSU is probably waiting till after the NCAA report finally comes out to fire Smith. He's gonna be their next fall guy. ...following Tressel & Pryor.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 PM | I think that's right. (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't think OSU has much of a choice. Would another AD want to start now?  Does OSU really want someone else to suddenly take over dealing with the NCAA? Would you truly want to bring someone new up to speed on everything that's gone on or risk him getting blindsided? They're stuck with Smith for now. He'll be gone before it's time to hire a new coach and I bet he knows it.

Eating is murder.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 PM | Start over? (Score:2 Normal)
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They could hire an MGoBlogger and he/she would already be up to speed.  Not to mention that all these shenanigans would stop immediately.  No way we would allow them an unfair advantage.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 PM | Without question (Score:3 Normal)
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Posey and Herron should be dismissed from the program. They are obviously unethical,nd could care less about their reputation or the reputation of the school. It is about Herron and Posey and how much can they get out of the deal. If I were the AD I would dismiss them from the program for assisting in tarnishing the reputation of the school, more than once.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:36 PM | Disagree (Score:2 Normal)
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I hope they aren't dismissed. If they are dismissed, it allows Smith to look like he stands for something, and is doing something. If they aren't dismissed, it allows the NCAA to come down harder, and is one more plank in the LOIC platform.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:57 PM | Can't see Fickell (Score:1)
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letting these guys get dismissed, especially if they haven't had their turn to be shown as role models for the underclassmen by being named captains for upcoming games like Jordan Hall (at least for seniors Herron and Posey). /s

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 PM | OSU's Whiteboard (Score:1)
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I hope it reads, "Always Be Committing Infractions". It will make our Big Ten lives that much more pleasant. 

Clearly, things are still out of control in the football program, and the lack of leadership and any sense of duty to the program or the  school is frankly sick. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 PM | Famous last words, Mr. Smith (Score:1)
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“We're optimistic that failure to monitor and lack of institutional control is not an allegation that will emerge," Smith said.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:44 PM | Now, where did I set down (Score:3 Normal)
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Now, where did I set down that big box of popcorn?  Oh, hell.  I'll just have to get some more.

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:46 PM | Is it just me, or does the OSU AD only (Score:2 Normal)
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send out emails, self-report or "disassociate itself" from bad boosters profiteers once the media has gottenahold of things.

It's like, 'Oh, you know about that thing we do that's illegal?  Yeah, ok, wow, we had no idea.  Mr Bad Booster, you are no longer welcome, wink-wink.

'How's that NCAA, is it good enough, can our poor athletes who need assistance play again???'

Does anyone buy ANY of this?  Does Gene Smith or Godon Gee actually believe anyone thinks they are telling the truth?  If all these continued 'infractions' keep coming to light, a LOIC and FTM have to been coming down on them.

Every other school getting caught is getting its punishment much faster than OSU and Auburn.  Wouldn't that lead one to believe that the penalties thaT osu AND Auburn get much more severe?

If they don't get hit really hard, virutally every school will cheat because the benefits so out-weigh the cost.

 

What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:59 PM | FWIW (Score:4 Normal)
goblueclassof03
Joined: 03/12/2009
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general unsubstantiated rumor mongering, but reading Bucknuts board and this is one commenter's post:

"the fan 97.1 in c-bus, said this basically: it was from this past summer, they said posey worked 21 hrs and got paid for 70 hrs, they were also very adament about having it on good source that this came about from t. pryor rattin them out."

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:06 PM | Dismissing Herron and Posey (Score:1)
AMazinBlue
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would make them martyrs for the problems that student-athletes face these days.  Besides, that offense cannot possibly score more than one TD per game without those two.

What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:10 PM | How the hell is this not an (Score:3 Insightful)
yoopergoblue
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How the hell is this not an institutional problem, Smith?  This shit keeps on coming out of the wood-work every month or so and he has the same B.S. excuse every time.  These fuckers are going to get a slap on the wrist because Smith and Gee are in bed with the NCAA and it's a shame.  

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:28 PM | How on earth can a program (Score:1)
AAK15
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How on earth can a program cheat so much and get away with it? This is seriously getting out of hand. And ESPN makes little to no mention of it...

UMich 13

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:33 PM | Because (Score:1)
Roachgoblue
Joined: 08/29/2011
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We are pussies and we don't rip on them like they did us over practice. And when I say "we" I mean Brandon with the Big 10. I love the big ten, but right now I hate the big ten. It is like a girlfriend; fun at times but it can f$ck you hard.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:48 PM | Sarcasm? (Score:5 Normal)
Dizzo
Joined: 08/15/2010
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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, so will proceed as if you are not.

ESPN is suing OSU for failing to provide documents and did an Outside the Lines report detailing tons of potential violations. Why are you saying they aren't mentioning it?

Did you see in the report OSU filed that one of the additional violations for Posey was receiving a free round of golf from Mr. Dennis Talbott? That violation is a direct result of ESPN coverage...

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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 PM | I forgot how terribly sarcasm (Score:1)
AAK15
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I forgot how terribly sarcasm translates on the internet. My point was we've been saying the same thing time after time the exact story comes out. It's actually getting ridiculous how many times I've seen the exact same post I typed out posted already....

UMich 13

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 PM | Rittenberg thinks that OSU (Score:5 Normal)
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Rittenberg thinks that OSU should be charged with lack of institutional control:

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/34763/systems-failure-osu-keeps...

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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 PM | OSU is a joke. (Score:1)
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When they say something you have to wait a couple of seconds and them ask them what really happened, because you know anything coming out of their mouths is bullshit.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:15 PM | Does everyone realize (Score:-1 Flamebait)
UM Indy
Joined: 03/05/2009
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if we find a way to lose to these bastards this year, it will feel way worse than the losses we've endured when they were at full strength?

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 PM | Boise got an LOIC (Score:1)
Maize and Blue ...
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because current players let incoming players sleep on the couch/floor of their dorm room/apartment.  What more does Ohio have to do to get hit with the same? Or does the relationship with the new NCAA boss save their backside?  When are the colleges going to realize that the NCAA doesn't treat all of their members equally especially when it comes to doling out punishments.  USC must steam coming out of their ears.  Then again, they gave the NCAA the bird when they hired Lane who should be getting a show cause in the near future from his one year at Tennessee.

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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:23 PM | Count ability (Score:3 Normal)
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1 Infraction . . . 

2 Infractions . . . 

3 Infractions . . .

Those Who Blog, Will Be Champions

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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 PM | It's a damn good thing... (Score:2)
bnoble
Joined: 01/02/2011
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Well, it's a damn good thing they don't have a systemic problem down there at Ohio State...

 

 

http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~bnoble/

 
 
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October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 AM | Unless they only get their wrists slapped (Score:1)
AMazinBlue
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there's no way Urban takes the job.  He'll end up at PSU, which isn't great, but better than Ohio.

What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.

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