You know what’s even better about winning the natty?

Submitted by Toby Flenderson on January 9th, 2024 at 8:59 PM

Knowing that we are still going to kick their ass on November 30th. 
 

Go Blue, fuck Ohio State. Michigan vs. Everybody. 12 nattys

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J. Redux

January 9th, 2024 at 11:15 PM ^

It's not the least bit strange -- people are resistant to change, especially change that doesn't have any upside.  It's not easier to say "natty" than "title" or "NC," and it already has an association -- and not a positive one -- for many people.  I do concede that we've lost the battle, to the point where I'll only downvote the most mouth-breathing uses of it.  Like, say, whatever this post was.

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FB Dive

January 10th, 2024 at 2:18 AM ^

It's not easier to say "natty" than "title" or "NC,"

"Title" could mean many things -- Big Ten title, division title, or national title. I've never heard someone shorten national championship as "NC," at least not aloud, and in any event, I don't find vague acronyms a preferable alternative.

I don't understand this blog's disdain for the phrase "natty." It is thoroughly part of the mainstream vernacular, and it shaves off 5 syllables. Pretty efficient for casual conversation. If people don't want to say "natty," then don't say it. But the claim by some posters (not you) that only dumb people use the phrase is obnoxious and absurd.

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Michfan777

January 9th, 2024 at 10:00 PM ^

Might I add a few more to the sports word vomit dictionary:

“Generational” - The latest overused term to describe high-level players. There seem to be about 10 generational players per season these days.

”Classy” - We’ve all seen Anchorman, bro.  And saying “keep it classy” or “real classy” or “you stay classy, ______” is so incredibly played out.

Adding A “y/ie” To Players Names: Announcers seem to gush at the opportunity to rename a player to a little kids name - turning Steve Breaston into Stevie Breaston, or Mike Sainristil into Mikey.

And the worst one…

Chippy: This one popped up a decade or so and is now so overused. Any time a player shoves another, the announcer has to say “it’s getting chippy down there.”

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Easy Day

January 10th, 2024 at 12:09 AM ^

Adding A “y/ie” To Players Names: Announcers seem to gush at the opportunity to rename a player to a little kids name - turning Steve Breaston into Stevie Breaston, or Mike Sainristil into Mikey.

To be fair, Mike Sainristil's name is pronounced Mikey so people are just spelling it like they hear it rather than giving him a nickname.

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Ernis

January 10th, 2024 at 12:18 AM ^

To be fair, you’re being extremely generous on this point, which is widely known. The quoted remark is objectively ignorant and downright shitty to suggest that Mike’s actual, phonetically accurate name is somehow belittling to him.

At first I thought MF777’s entire comment was a bit of ironical jest, to mock the intransigent knuckle-draggers who prop up pretentious rigidity as a virtue. Ha!

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J. Redux

January 9th, 2024 at 11:18 PM ^

or (c) in reference to an actual retired racehorse.  Unless you're attempting some horrible eugenics program, please don't refer to a human -- particularly a male human -- as a "stud." :). (and if you are attempting such a program, please stop and turn yourself in to the FBI at the soonest possible juncture, before anyone gets hurt).

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JacquesStrappe

January 10th, 2024 at 11:35 AM ^

I can’t stand them either as both sound juvenile and substance-less, but I gave in and started using them because it seems that this is the vernacular in common usage and understanding.

That doesn’t mean that I have to like them. It’s kind of like when people use the term O.G. It’s such a stupid expression that borrows from everyone’s obsession now with having "street cred".

Moreover, depending on your vintage you either understand O.G. as Original Gangster or Old Guard. Both are for poseurs.  

Most people that use terms like O.G. or "Old School" aren’t any of those things and lack any semblance of context. If they really were those things they would describe things as "old fashioned" which is what most people with more mileage on the odometer would say.

Old fashioned people knew what it was like to have a rotary phone, have roll-up windows, mail letters, and understood a time before your closest connections in life weren’t your Instagram followers. Nothing wrong with that. The world changes.

But unless they have old souls, none of these folks have any idea what would in today’s world would be construed as old. Now get off my lawn!

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Cruzcontrol75

January 9th, 2024 at 11:50 PM ^

Then I walk up the first street, (Natty Dreadlock)
And then I walk up the second street to see. (Natty Dreadlock)
Then I trod on through third street, (Natty Dreadlock)
And then I talk to some Dread on fourth street. (Natty Dreadlock)
Natty Dreadlock in a fifth street, (Natty Dreadlock)
And then I skip one fence to sixth street. (Natty Dreadlock)
I've got to reach seventh street: (Natty Dreadlock)
Natty Dreadlock Bingy Bongo I (Natty Dread)
Natty dread, Natty Dread, now, (Natty Dread)
Roots Natty Congo I. (Natty Dread)

Maybe Bob was in Ann Arbor?
 

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J. Redux

January 9th, 2024 at 11:18 PM ^

We're not UCF.  We're not counting made-up titles in the poll era.  1932 isn't particularly widely recognized, and 1947, Notre Dame was the pre-bowl champion, and Michigan and Notre Dame's relative bowl performances convince the AP to do a hitherto-unseen post-bowl poll.  Michigan recognizes that poll; the NCAA does not, as it was added after-the-fact.  In '48, AP committed to a post-bowl poll ahead of time.

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J. Redux

January 10th, 2024 at 1:06 AM ^

I stated "in the poll era," which was specifically an acknowledgment that 1932 is fine.  '47, I could go either way on, but I think Michigan's claim makes more sense because the AP specifically changed the rules because of how good the '47 team was.  So, I'm good with 12.  But '73 and '85, no.

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SeaWolv

January 10th, 2024 at 9:31 AM ^

The NCAA recognizes USC as national champions for 1932 because they defeated Pittsburgh in the Rose Bowl. Prior to the game UM was #1 (8-0), USC #2 (9-0) and Pitt #3 (8-0-2). However, the Big 9 didn’t allow members to participate in post season games. USC prevailed 35-0 and was recognized as national champions. UM did receive the Knute Rockne Memorial Trophy as national champions under the math-based Dickinson System over USC and Pitt.

The NCAA recognizes Notre Dame as national champions for the 1947 season because they were 8-0 in the regular season. At that time Notre Dame was not participating in post season games by choice. UM was #2 (9-0) and defeated #8 USC (7-0-1) in the Rose Bowl 49-0. An unofficial post-bowl AP poll was conducted between Notre Dame (8-0) and UM (10-0) and UM won by a vote of 226-119.

Interesting to note that in 1932 the regular season #1 was snubbed by the NCAA due to lack of a post season victory but in 1947 the opposite is true.

Way to be consistent NCAA.

If UM claimed both they would be ahead of Notre Dame in total championships by one (12-11) if we only clamed one we'd be tied 11 all. 

So it would seem that per NCAA precedent UM could reasonably claim one of these (1947) but how does one make a case for both?

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