Winovich and the Revenge Tour Reaper
Pretty cool story leading up to the kickoff, and the mentality Winovich has had a hand in. Looks like M-Den has capitalized on it as well with Reaper Revenge Tour T-shirts under the Valiant label. https://www.mden.com/product/Valiant_University_of_Michigan_Football_Navy_Revenge_Tour_Reaper_Tee?VA1824+1014
also a few MSU/Bunyan style shirts. Go Blue.
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
November 4th, 2018 at 12:01 AM ^
I never know whether to tell you to drink less or drink more or to combine either of those with some mood-altering medications. If you wish, I can provide details on my personal cocktail.
November 4th, 2018 at 5:04 AM ^
Beat Rutger
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:35 PM ^
Serious question: Could Winovich sell these shirts if they have no M logos on them and no likeness of himself? I would assume it's not a violation to start your own business?
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:56 PM ^
I beleive this is false. Mark Titus (benchwarmer OSU basketball player) had a blog called "club trillion" and he could not sell shirts. Can't have the talent making money, could steal some dollars from Delaney and Company.
And he was a walkon for the "scholarships are fair compensation" crowd .
November 4th, 2018 at 12:35 AM ^
So long as he wasn't selling them while representing himself as an OSU athlete, he could sell what he wished. Can't have the truth interfering with ignorant rhetoric, could steal some ANGR from the internets.
November 4th, 2018 at 1:35 AM ^
Jeremy Bloom was being compensated as an olympic level skiier and somehow that made him inelegible as a wr for Colorado.
What point are you trying to make?
November 4th, 2018 at 1:02 AM ^
UCF's kicker was told he couldn't make money off YouTube because it violated amateurism rules. Pretty sure Chase would be violating many of the NCAA's garbage rules.
All cash payments must be made in secret. See just as SEC schools.
November 4th, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^
If memory serves, Titus got dinged for really petty stuff while writing his blog when it came to compliance, beyond the shirts. It was a constant battle when all he was trying to do was write a hysterical blog as a form of entertainment and self-deprication.
I'll be totally honest: Mark Titus was the only Buckeye I've ever totally liked and respected. That blog was gold. An absolutely amazing and unvarnished window into what it was like to play in the B1G back then. Plus those FUNDAMENTALS MONTAGE videos. And he's done really wonderful things after, while facing some pretty tough stuff along the way.
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:58 PM ^
Winovich himself said he couldn't sell them because it would be an NCAA violation.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:43 AM ^
Could his family sell them?
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:43 PM ^
I don't know for sure, so obviously will chime in as if I'm an authority. I do remember this example but believe the violation was making money off his athletic reputation. I think Winovich could start his own business as long as it did not involve him using his status as an athlete to promote it. He probably couldn't get startup funds from any booster to U of M or use his status as an athlete to get funding. But it's the NCAA, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯...
November 4th, 2018 at 12:39 AM ^
Can't use his status as an athlete, correct. The NCAA wouldn't even know about it if he kept it seperate from athletics.
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:36 PM ^
One more to go. The most important one.
Do it.
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:47 PM ^
Rutger?
November 4th, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^
We still need to cover the spread and gain the style points against Rutger. Every game is important now. The world is watching.
November 4th, 2018 at 12:39 AM ^
November 4th, 2018 at 12:42 AM ^
You missed it. It started with those silly "slackbot" responses in "This week's obsession" articles and slowly became the community norm. It's kinda like "Bolivia" - not a joke, just insider-speak.
November 4th, 2018 at 1:00 AM ^
November 4th, 2018 at 1:21 AM ^
It's kinda like "Bolivia" - not a joke, just insider-speak.
No, there's an origin to "Bolivia".
November 4th, 2018 at 1:39 AM ^
I believe "Rutger" was originated by the guys at Crimson Quarry back in 2016.
Other Plans to Make Rutger Great Again
First what you'll notice is that we'd like to change the name of the University, officially. Rutgers may be a well-known name in New Jersey, but for people who matter, the "s" is too much work for a place that just doesn't matter. But we can make it matter.
Because in addition to hiring a great coach and dropping the "s," we'd like to put together a proposal to apply for admission to the Big Ten. Rutger doesn't belong in that conference, but there's no harm in trying. There's really nothing to lose when you try to do something that makes absolutely no sense.
November 4th, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^
Thanks! While I understood what it meant, I never realized where it came from. Good old Mike.
November 4th, 2018 at 8:46 AM ^
If we make the CFP we would still be on tour with getting revenge vs Alabama 2012 and Notre Dame 2018
November 4th, 2018 at 12:11 AM ^
If they beat OSU they need to remake this shirt with the scores of the 4 games on the back. I'd buy one then.
November 4th, 2018 at 12:25 AM ^
The answer is no. NCAA by-laws forbid a player from employment or income that is “assisted by his or her status as an athlete.” This shirt is directly related to his status as an athlete and would be aided by his popularity and status as a football player. It’s a no-no as of right now. May change soon.
November 4th, 2018 at 12:31 AM ^
Do you know if it has been settled whether a player owns their likeness? I thought that was the point of the recent litigation, but don't know if it is now a settled issue. In that regard, could a player put their face on a t-shirt and sell it? Obviously it violates the principle you noted, but if the player owns their likeness... I suppose they could do it but just end up losing eligibility as the consequence...
November 4th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^
But wasn't the recent OSU litigation about them using a player's likeness after they were no longer a student? Seems like a different situation.
November 4th, 2018 at 5:03 AM ^
User name definitely checks out
November 4th, 2018 at 12:57 AM ^
I’m familiar with the recent cases, but not sure how, or if, the NCAA has adjusted the regulations at this point.
I don’t believe any major changes have come about, yet, as a result of the litigation. At least not in the areas we are talking about.
I’m not certain about that though.
November 4th, 2018 at 5:03 AM ^
I overheard Chase say this to coach Franklin after the game:
“All right, Franklin.. you called down the thunder, well now you've got it! You see that? It says Michigan Wolverine! Take a good look at Trace...'cause that's how you're gonna end up! The Lions are finished, you understand? I see a white uniform, I kill the man wearin' it! So run, you cur... RUN! Tell all the other curs the Wolverines are comin'! You tell 'em I'M coming... and hell's coming with me, you hear?...Hell's coming with me!”
November 4th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^
This is also why players need to get paid. Making money off of them.