Why not a guy like Brent Venables
He has an outstanding track record of success. He was the co-DC of the 2000 Oklahoma defense that shut down Heisman trophy winner Chris Weinke and FSUs high powered offense in the BCS National Championship game.
His defenses at Clemson are among the best in the country year in and year out. This year they are #2 overall behind Ohio State, and we may get to see them matchup against this Ohio State offense.
Also, Venables has been an outstanding recruiter. In 2016, Rivals named him Recruiter of the Year. Plus, he's still relatively young at 49.
His name has been brought up in several head coaching vacancies such as Kansas State(his alma mater), Texas Tech, and Florida State. I would think Michigan would be much more attractive than those three due to inheriting a far more talented roster here, plus the amount of money available here.
Regardless of today's result, this season's disappointment, and the underwhelming success of Harbaugh's tenure, I still love the guy. That said, in order to take the next step we need a guy like Brent Venables.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Let's hire any surviving members of the grateful dead to be our corches
Then our dudes can just drop acid all day and nobody with give a shit if we beat ohio st
November 30th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Awesome idea pal! Make your shitpost dreams come true!
November 30th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
I hear Bill Parcells is available. Why not see if he's interested? He won a super bowl about 40 years ago and coached Lawrence Taylor, that would really resonate with young players.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
You did know Lawrence Taylor was on cocaine when he played?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:18 PM ^
I hear Rich Rodriguez is available
November 30th, 2019 at 9:18 PM ^
Bc Matt Rhule is better. And Harbaugh.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:56 PM ^
What big games has Matt Rhule won? Rhule seems to be a solid coach but he hasn't proven he is a big game coach. He just choked away a big game vs Oklahoma
Matt Rhule is 0-9 against ranked teams while coach of Baylor
November 30th, 2019 at 10:06 PM ^
Yeah but you see he almost beat Oklahoma this year so yeah good enough reason!
November 30th, 2019 at 10:29 PM ^
What big games has Harbaugh won?
November 30th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
My point is that you people want to fire Harbaugh for not being able to win big games yet you want to hire a coach who is 0-9 vs ranked opponents at Baylor
Harbaugh is at least 9-11 in games vs ranked opponents at Michigan
If the right candidate presented itself Id be all for firing Harbaugh and hiring that person but Rhule has not shown himself to be that guy yet
December 1st, 2019 at 9:03 AM ^
He beat the piss out of #8 Notre Dame a few weeks ago. Or does that not count because we won?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^
Would have to back the truck of cash up to convince anyone to switch from Clemson (easy recruiting, considered elite to 5 star recruits, plenty of resources, and in a warmer climate) to Michigan (currently losing annually to its elite level rival, unrealistic expectations of fan base, and struggling to recruit elite players).
possible...not the worst idea, just going to take a TON of money
November 30th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^
I just checked how much I paid for season tickets and if my math is correct UM can afford to pay him a shit ton of money. I didn't show my work tho, sorry.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:23 PM ^
Just curious where you found that towel-pig in your icon. I was recently on a boat cruise and got the same thing lol
November 30th, 2019 at 9:26 PM ^
Definitely take a ton of money, but i think he's better than all the other names that have been talked about on this board the last couple years. He's gotta be better than what we currently have.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:25 PM ^
we need a guy like Brent Venables.
Who is "we"?
And how do you know he will work out better than Jim Harbaugh?
Why don't "we" want this man, who has already won National Championships at 2 different schools?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:28 PM ^
Hire Urban so he could dismantle the machine he assembled himself in Columbus. It’s pure genius i tell ya! It could write itself.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
+1 for you, LOL. Of course he would be the #1 choice, but there is no way....NO WAY he'd come to AA. I dont think he'd come for $15 million/year, but it'd be nice if they'd offer him!
November 30th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^
That image: ?
November 30th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^
The guy won’t even say the word “Michigan”, but sure. Maybe Belichick could be his assistant and Saban his DC? Maybe Dabo could be the receivers coach?
November 30th, 2019 at 11:12 PM ^
Maybe he can convince Tressell to run the offense, and a "retired" Mork to come back as DC.
(I actually typed that without vomiting... much.)
I want a coach that we can trust is actually looking out for these young men's best interests. Urbz is one of many who seems to have other priorities.
December 1st, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^
I hate whatever tool initially photoshopped this image that now will never go away. It'll be posted on every Michigan football fanz facebook group forever
November 30th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
Who ever can replicate Narduzzi's time @ MSU is who we need to hire. Those teams had the best gap integrity that I've seen, and made spread teams earn it over the top with low % plays.
Hire the best "quarters "coverage teacher left in the NCAA.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:31 PM ^
I love this idea too. I think UM has better talent and speed than he had at MSU. I'd love to see what he could do in AA
November 30th, 2019 at 9:32 PM ^
Oh, FFS, we're going to hire their pharmacist?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:51 PM ^
In a completely College Football fan world, I hate Narduzzi and Meyer.
November 30th, 2019 at 11:26 PM ^
His ways are in the past. How’s that working out for him at Pitt?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:30 PM ^
Look, if we fire Harbaugh (our hometown hero) after 9 & 10 win seasons, simply because he can’t beat OSU, what proven coach would be willing to take on that set of expectations? Add in the obscenely tough division, and we just wouldn’t be a very attractive place to work (homerism aside).
I’m as frustrated as the rest of us, I just don’t know what the answer is, or if it lies in a head coaching change?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:34 PM ^
They did it to John Cooper after regularly winning 9-10 games in shorter seasons. Worked out pretty well.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:38 PM ^
OSU went 6-6 and 8-4 in Cooper's last two seasons. They also had players in the lineup with 0.0 GPAs, which was threatening NCAA sanctions. The narrative that it was all about Michigan is easy but not too accurate.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:34 PM ^
Then we spend years in the wilderness like Notre Dame (until they lucked into Brian Kelly who a good number of their fanbase detest).
I'm surely looking forward to that.
Why doesn't Michigan just open the money cannon then and hire Brent Venables, or Dave Aranda or the flavour of the month as DC then.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:33 PM ^
Word is hes an excellent bagman
November 30th, 2019 at 9:34 PM ^
Wait is this the same guy that wanted venables a couple months back. This must be his agent trying to put out feelers
November 30th, 2019 at 9:35 PM ^
Probably, but if i wasnt, im now agreeing with whoever did
November 30th, 2019 at 10:04 PM ^
If Venables’ agent is trying to get his client a job by posting here, Venables needs a new agent.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^
That said, in order to take the next step we need a guy like Brent Venables.
What is "a guy like him"? A rookie HC?
November 30th, 2019 at 10:00 PM ^
I would love Venables But I think the most realistic thing to hope for is that Don Brown is fired. Harbaugh is probably here to stay as long as he wants and as long as he doesnt dip below 8 wins
November 30th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^
This is the answer. Harbaugh isn't going anywhere unless HE decides to leave. Just have to get better on D. It's not all on Brown, but I think teams have figured him out.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:04 PM ^
No coach could'a saved this defensive line today or against Wisky. They were plain run over, and the weakest position group we have.
November 30th, 2019 at 11:37 PM ^
The guy who should have been the best DT prospect reaching maturity now turned out to be a flake. The next one they thought could be even better at OT, which was seemingly an even bigger need at the time. He didn't like it.
The former line coach was at one time a great recruiter, but went oddly silent after some criticism that seemed out of place at the time. He didn't seem to develop most players that well over his last couple seasons (aside from one undersized end.)
Things seem encouraging with recruiting since that coach went away. But they were young, or injured and/or former ends who gained weight. Those aren't good combinations. When your NT in a 3 man line is probably 270 you have problems when you get to teams that have 320 pound guys who are just as quick.
Poor damn Metellus should never be left alone in coverage as he was though. If this is the scheme (and I love this scheme when you have real DT's & guys who can cover) it needs safeties who can hold their own fairly consistently.
December 1st, 2019 at 9:07 AM ^
It was painful watching Kemp and Dwumfour getting doubles over and over again and just getting removed from the line. I don't think we'll ever see a UFR of this and I'm never rewatching it, but it seemed like every replay of a Dobbins run featured one of those 2 yards out of the play
November 30th, 2019 at 10:06 PM ^
Honest question: what, schematically, should Michigan have done to win this game?
Harbaugh isn’t a senior leader jumping offsides on 4th and 4. He’s not that same senior blowing multiple assignments leading directly to TDs. He’s not the other senior leader blowing two zone coverages. He didn’t miss a cut to the front side of a play on a crucial 4th down. He didn’t drop passes in the 2nd half. Sometimes, it’s not the jockey, it’s the horses.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^
But it is the coaches fault for not making 5 star players come to UM. It the RB coach’s fault for not following his 300lb lead blocker into a gigantic hole for a TD on 4th down instead of cutting back for no reason, it is the ST coaches fault KH jumped off sides standing over the ball on a punt giving OSU a crucial first down, it is the WR coach’s fault for the WRs dropping at least 6 passes. Fire everyone
/s for the morons
November 30th, 2019 at 10:13 PM ^
You realize he recruits these guys right? It’s year 5!!! If he doesn’t have the horses it’s his fault.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:26 PM ^
Yes, I understand that. Do you think the staff doesn’t try to get these 5 star players and they just choose lower rated guys? I know part of the job is to be a good recruiter but just saying that JH and staff should get better recruits and whatever new coach would is ridiculous.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:57 PM ^
The mental mistakes had nothing to do with talent.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:20 PM ^
The coaches could have recruited defensive tackles.
December 1st, 2019 at 9:09 AM ^
Schematically, I'm not sure, but other teams with good defenses (MSU, PSU, Wisconsin) can keep them in the 30s. That was all I was hoping for. Keep OSU in the 30s and try to get to 40ish on offense. Brown is averaging 60 ppg vs Ryan Day. It's going to happen again in Columbus next year too
November 30th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^
What a stupid fucking post. If Harbaugh wins the bowl game and I bet he does, he'll have another 10 win season. The football talent in this State is piss poor and it's a challenge to do as well as he has. Shut the fuck up and be grateful we have HARBAUGH. Do you remember what it was like before he got here?!
I seriously can't take anymore of these fucking ungrateful assholes. HARBAUGH isn't a miracle worker but he has made us relevant again and he's the best we're going to get.
You people that think hiring the next best thing is the answer are absolutely clueless and I wish you would just leave the fanbase.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
I’m so grateful to be BLOWN THE FUCK OUT 3 out of 5 tries!!