Who will redshirt in '09?
February 5th, 2009 at 10:54 AM ^
He hasn't played in quite a while (Injured). He is even more guaranteed than Lewan to RS.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:56 AM ^
I really REALLY hope not, but we are still crossing our fingers on that knee.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:56 AM ^
Jeremy Gallon - Slot WR -
Vincent Smith - RB -
Teric Jones - RB
I think these 3 redshirt due to depth at current position
Adrian Witty - DB
I think he redshirts due to injury.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:01 AM ^
be used in the slot and on returns. No way they RS. RR is not going to RS any of the speedy bugger types. He will RS for injury or to build up bulk ( frosh on the OL).
February 5th, 2009 at 11:26 AM ^
no way they RS? i bet none of those guys see the field. yeah, i see your argument that RR loves these guys but also we already have a lot of depth at RB and even slot although not to the same extent.
also, all of the OL will redshirt. witty will redshirt. roh and perhaps lalota will redshirt. 1 of our QB's will redshirt and if i had to choose today i'd say d-rob. gordon will RS.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:30 AM ^
One or both of the DE's will play this year, most likely Roh. He's a speed rusher and the rest of our DE's are slow SDE types except Graham.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:57 AM ^
i'd give lalota the edge over Roh due to the fact that he's a winter enrollee
February 5th, 2009 at 12:01 PM ^
It's not going to matter. Lalota will probably be ahead on strength and condition, but Roh is already ahead on technique and speed.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:36 PM ^
strength does matter though. what is the point of burning a year of eligibility if he is going to be ineffective since he'll just be getting pushed around? i think both of these guys have great potential but their contributions, if any, in their freshmen years will be minimal. but i also think that of a lot of this class versus last year when we had a lot of guys step in right away.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:58 PM ^
wouldn't be an every down DE as a freshman. He'd probably be a 3rd down pass rush specialist, where strength isn't as important as speed.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:04 PM ^
Strength does matter, but he's already got technique and speed. Roh is 230 right now. I'm sure he can put on 10 or 15 pounds before September (if I can do it, he can, too!). Look at it this way:
SDE
Graham
VanBergen
Banks
Patterson (who has moved to DT but could probably play DE)
Lalota
WDE
............Graham?
Roh
February 5th, 2009 at 6:29 PM ^
I dont think the working out thing has too much to do with it. Roh is at home busting his ass right now and he will be in great shape himself. Sure it might be Barwis shape, but he isn't sitting around on the couch eating doughnuts all day.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:22 PM ^
... due to coach's decision, I will buy you season tickets to the 2010 season, but if he does, you owe me two Victors section tickets to a game of my choice in 2010.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:27 AM ^
This is erroneous. We have plenty of slot guys and return guys, as long as said return guys can hold onto the ball.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:33 AM ^
I spent the entire '07 season criticizing Lloyd for having Greg Matthews return kicks & punts. Watching the "Keystone Cops" try to return kicks last year proved just how much of an idiot I was for doing so. Lloyd, I apologize.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:00 AM ^
schofield
February 5th, 2009 at 11:03 AM ^
Hawthorne. They're listing him at 197. He could conceivably play special teams but more likely they'll give him a year to add muscle. This is also true (but less so) about Bell and Jones. Of course, they haven't played LB before, so if they're switching positions a redshirt would be more likely than not.
All the OL redshirt. Wouldn't be suprised to see Stokes redshirt too, as there are a lot of guys competing at outside WR.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:15 AM ^
Lewan, Lalota, Robinson, Witty, Schoefield, Mike Jones, Bell, Hawthorne and one of Gallon/Smith/Jones.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:35 AM ^
....but wouldn't it be easier to talk about who wont be redshirting.
I say all but 3-4 will redshirt.
Big Will, Turner, probably boths QBs and perhaps Stokes and Rohe are the only ones who will see the field next year.
Nevertheless the 2011, 2012 teams will be good as these guys hit their collegiate strides.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:39 AM ^
he's probably going to handle some of the kicking duties. But I agree with your six as the ones likely to contribute somewhere other than special teams. I think one RB gets in so that in 2010 we have more than just Shaw with game experience.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:06 PM ^
He'll have to figure into the kicking duties, won't he?!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:48 AM ^
I think at least one of the safeties has to play, whether it's Emilien, Jones, Gordon, or Bell. If not, we'll only play three safeties (Brown, Williams, Smith) for the entire season. I find that hard to believe.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:27 PM ^
I'm so unclear as to what JT Floyd is. Isn't he a Safety?
FWIW, RR said yesterday that Bell will likely become a LB (which would probably require a RS) and Jones, for now, was probably staying at S.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:37 PM ^
Dont you think Turner can play safety/3rd CB.....thats the role I see him in immediately.
He almost has to see the field immediately.
If Vlad's past his injury, I can see him on the field next year too.
But with a lineup of Warren, Cissoko, Brown, M. Williams....i see Turner backing up both the CB and S positions and seeing a lot of action.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:07 PM ^
I sincerely doubt the coaches would make Turner learn corner and safety and put him in the rotation at both positions. That's a lot to ask of a true freshman.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:22 PM ^
....we're thin all around in the Dbackfield and not realy that strong at safety to begin with.
Turner can play, imo, immediately. I see him as a safety right away out of need and since he has cover ability I can see matching up with the 3 WR from the other team. The actual position name, at that point, is meaningless....he should be the first DB off the bench, dont you think, in nickel and dime sets?
Can we count on Williams and Brown as the starting S's?
I just think the sky is the limit for Turner and wouldn't be surprised to see him play a little bit of everything back there out of need.
Long term: Do you see him as a corner or safety for us?
February 5th, 2009 at 1:51 PM ^
Honestly, I have no idea what position he WILL end up at. I think he could be a great safety (free or strong), and I think he could be an above average corner. It just depends on what position is open, I guess...
If Warren leaves after this year (a big if, I know), then I think Turner would be a corner for the rest of his college career. But if Warren sticks around next year, I have to think they'd put Turner at safety to replace Steve Brown.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 AM ^
for sure, given that because of injuries they missed about a year of reps in high school. So even if they are 100% healthy, they're probably a little raw because of the time they missed.
but I am thinking the two OL, Lalota, Bell, Smith, Gallon, Gordon, Gordon, T. Jones and either Hawthorne or M. Jones.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:29 PM ^
3 OL - Lewan, Schofield, Washington. All will most likely RS.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:40 AM ^
With DRob redshirting, Nick Sheridan is your third string QB. NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Think these things through before hypothesizing.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:18 PM ^
So unless Threet and Forcier both get hurt, he redshirts. He can still be third string and redshirt.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:30 PM ^
This strikes me as correct. If either Forcier or Robinson end up as "3rd string", they would likely end up Red Shirting, barring injury problems.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:47 PM ^
Good point. If one of the top two are hurt it is very likely the 3rd string has to burn his redshirt, but until then they can keep the 3rd stringer on RS.