What will be the ratio of Michigan:TCU fans at the game?
December 26th, 2022 at 5:14 PM ^
TCU traveled well to the Rose Bowl a few years ago. Living in DFW, I am sure TCU fans will be 50% or more.
December 26th, 2022 at 5:53 PM ^
This is a dumb take. Period
December 26th, 2022 at 9:08 PM ^
I see dumber takes. At least his take referenced past precedent and local knowledge.
December 27th, 2022 at 9:10 AM ^
Well then allow me to be more specific: Myself and my brother are going with my two sons. Since he and I are Michigan fans since the early 1970's and my boys are TCU fans (my youngest got his masters there). Our tiny little section, row and seats will be 50-50.
Having adopted TCU as my Texas team since I moved to Texas in the early 80's from Michigan and raising my 2 boys to love college football-this trip is a dream come true. What I have seen; especially for such a smaller private School -TCU really seems to travel well and I really expect TCU to have close to 50% if not more IMO.
Go Blue!
December 27th, 2022 at 9:22 AM ^
See? Was that so hard?
December 26th, 2022 at 8:48 PM ^
All I care about is whose fans are hitting harder.
December 27th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
Ohio State fans. They're a bunch of undisciplined assholes. And I've lived in Columbus for nearly 25 years.
December 26th, 2022 at 5:14 PM ^
I predict 74% Michigan, 38% TCU. But who cares? Cheer loud!
December 26th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
83% of all stats are made up anyway.
December 26th, 2022 at 9:52 PM ^
100% of the TCU fans in attendance will be there, and 100% of Michigan fans there will be in attendance
December 28th, 2022 at 1:35 PM ^
60% of the time this will be true 100% of the time
December 26th, 2022 at 5:15 PM ^
45.23%
December 26th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
69.69%
December 26th, 2022 at 5:19 PM ^
We ARE the Greatest University in the World. 3:1 ratio of Blue:Purple minimum. Book it
December 26th, 2022 at 5:23 PM ^
At the bowl games I've been to there have always been more of them than there are of us but we usually play in Florida against a SEC team or in the Rose Bowl against USC or UCLA. In any event there will be more of us at the Fiesta Bowl than there were in Columbus for the Game and you could hear us in the Shoe so I am confident we will be heard.
December 26th, 2022 at 5:37 PM ^
Michigan fans are used to playing in bowls in the other fucking teams area. We play Florida in Orlando, Alabama in Georgia and Florida, usc/UCLA in the rose bowl.
I really wish we could have played in Atlanta. I would have gone too. Grrr
December 26th, 2022 at 5:40 PM ^
I’m actually going with my neighbor who is a TCU grad. Should be interesting…
December 26th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^
I hope the experience leaves him/her dissatisfied.
December 26th, 2022 at 5:43 PM ^
I feel like there were more Michigan fans than Georgia fans last year, and that was in Florida when most of us expected to lose. Especially considering the size of TCU, I can't imagine it's not 65%+ Michigan fans.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:23 PM ^
I agree that there were definitely more Michigan fans in Miami last year, and heard some Georgia fans commenting on that after the game as well. I am not sure if potentially closer/cheaper flights will help TCU with attendance this time around.
I wanted to go to the Fiesta Bowl, but decided not to based on the how much more flights around the holidays are. (I would be flying from Maryland.). Flights to LA around the championship game look to be more reasonable, but I have to decide how much I am willing to pay for a ticket on the secondary market since I was about 20 priority points too low get them from the department.
December 26th, 2022 at 10:54 PM ^
I'm concerned that this could be a reason we end up outnumbered in Phoenix, and why Georgia had fewer fans last year. Fans that expect to win the semi may focus on making a trip to the final instead, if they don't have the ability to go to both. The size of fan base difference is a good counterpoint though.
December 26th, 2022 at 5:56 PM ^
Are we expecting a heavy Michigan crowd?
The state of Michigan has an obesity rate of 34.4%, so by global standards it is quite likely to be a relatively heavy Michigan crowd. However, Texas's obesity rate is even higher, so it is quite possible that they have a heavier crowd.
December 26th, 2022 at 7:26 PM ^
I feel sorry for those stuck in the middle seat making their way to AZ.
December 27th, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^
Hopefully all flight crews have adequate rations of GasX on standby. 🫡
December 26th, 2022 at 6:10 PM ^
I honestly don't know what the last year's game was like....I hear we travel well but am just concerned with winning
December 27th, 2022 at 11:11 AM ^
5 and 0 on the road and neutral sites this year. Crowd ratio doesn't matter.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:15 PM ^
Ratio will be 4.8-1.9.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:16 PM ^
TCU is a small private school with a fall of 2022 enrollment of about 12,000 students.
I have driven through the campus many times in the past 5 years and it reminded of a small MAC school. Older brick buildings with manicured courtyards and walkways. Very picturesque. The sports complex looks newer as you head west into the residential areas of Fort Worth.
December 26th, 2022 at 9:26 PM ^
With apologies to the Michigan Directional grads on this board "very picturesque" (which seems spot-on for TCU) is not how I'd describe most MAC schools.
December 26th, 2022 at 10:21 PM ^
How many have you been to?
Miami of Ohio is very nice as is Ohio (Bobcats!).
December 27th, 2022 at 7:32 AM ^
Agreed on Ohio U. and Athens. Miami is the NW of the MAC. Notice I said most. Not much impressed with any others. I haven't seen U Buffalo.
December 27th, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^
of the directionals, Western is the prettiest.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:22 PM ^
Wondering this myself. Here in Orange County this holiday, I’ve seen tons of TCU gear being worn.
Ive probably seen 10x the amount of TCU gear on people here in the past few days than the entire 7 years I was living in Texas
December 27th, 2022 at 5:44 PM ^
Fun fact - CA sends more students to TCU than any other state (excluding Texas). My wife is faculty and on the admissions committee for her program. Tons of CA students, so I’m not terribly surprised that you have seen a lot of TCU gear.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:42 PM ^
I think Michigan (ever so slightly) outnumbered Georgia fans last year. And that was in Florida, right in the heart of SEC country. That bodes well for this year.
It’s not going to be overwhelmingly pro-Michigan. This is TCU’s first ever trip and their fan base won’t disappoint. They’ll want to be there. But I’d guess 60-65% Michigan fans. There will be a ton of West Coast fans who will show up in droves for this game.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:50 PM ^
How about some facts:
STUDENTS
U of M: 44,000+
TCU: 11,000+
ALUMNI:
U of M: 574,000
TCU: 90,000
If you think the distance to Phoenix gives them an edge, you're mistaken. Few will drive from TCU - it's a 15-hour drive (I live in Austin and have done the drive to Phoenix). It's a 4.5 hour flight from DTW, a 2.5 hour flight from DFW.
Do the math.
December 26th, 2022 at 6:53 PM ^
It was my understanding that there would be no math
December 26th, 2022 at 7:32 PM ^
The math is actually quite perplexing.
The poster seems to imply Michigan's superior alumni and student base will directly correspond to more M fans in attendance.
But...
The students won't have the same access to tickets as alumni.
The alumni number quoted reflects world-wide alumni rather than people in reasonable travelling distance to the game.
So I guess the "do the math" part is the numbers pan out for Michigan travelling to the game?!
Until...
The poster showed it's easier for TCU fans to get there based upon a flight that is only about half as long as for people flying from Michigan.
So... if I'm "doing the math" and two trains leave stations 2,000 miles apart and one train travels at 75 and the other train miles per hour while the other travels at 85 miles per hour, how long will it take for my wife to schedule plans for us on NYE so I'll miss the game?!
December 26th, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^
One you've made the decision to fly, does it really matter if the flight takes 2, 3 or 4 hours?
If TCU were within driving distance that would be another story. But both fanbases are overwhelmingly going to be flying to get there.
December 26th, 2022 at 8:00 PM ^
One you've made the decision to fly, does it really matter if the flight takes 2, 3 or 4
Yep, that's kinda why I was picking apart that post.
December 26th, 2022 at 10:36 PM ^
You were picking apart a post when you didn't get it? Allow me to help you:
U of M has far more alums and students. Got it?
As jmblue points out, TCU isn't close enough to drive, and the flight length isn't enough to make a difference.
Still with me?
Conclusion: with more than 6x the alumni and 4x the students and travel about the same difficulty from the two primary fan locations, who's more likely to have more people in the stands on Saturday?
C'mon, take a shot.
January 3rd, 2023 at 9:59 AM ^
C'mon, take a shot.
I don't need too.
Your reading comprehension fucking sucks.
December 26th, 2022 at 10:45 PM ^
It's a 15 hour drive from Dallas to Phoenix, and like 13 of those hours is just to get to the Texas border. Texas is yoooge.
December 26th, 2022 at 7:00 PM ^
Probably 65-70% Michigan and 30-35% TCU. TCU is a relatively small school (total enrollment of around 10,000 compared to our 45,000) with a much more limited profile than Michigan (they weren't even Power 5 until just a few years ago). On the other hand, Dallas is closer to Phoenix than Detroit.
December 26th, 2022 at 7:12 PM ^
The ratio of unicorns to leprechauns
December 26th, 2022 at 8:29 PM ^
How many Stanley nickels will you give me if Michigan wins?
December 26th, 2022 at 8:25 PM ^
🎶 Forty Six & 2 🎶
Whatever it is, I just want Michigan fans to leave the stadium happy
December 26th, 2022 at 10:01 PM ^
Tool reference?
December 26th, 2022 at 8:58 PM ^
100% Michigan when the game ends.