UGA TCU history and interest in the championship game

Submitted by spacecowboy on January 6th, 2023 at 12:13 PM

I was at the 1988 game tween the hedges and it was a beautiful sunny day.  It was the only game I went to in 6 years living in Athens (which was great fun as is an outstanding school and community).  Memory did not serve me well so I looked up some info on it and found this article.  

https://www.11alive.com/article/sports/college/georgia-bulldogs/georgia-tcu-football-history-national-championship-game/85-e2eacc9d-f369-44ad-ba97-8833ae181207

I went with a friend and we both were like what is a Horned Frog and why are we playing them despite the fact that they have won a few nattys.   Anyway UGA carried the day and I realized I would never really care about UGA football.  To this day I like Georgia but cannot get the least bit excited about their success.  That said, Go Dawgs mainly because I love dogs as best friends and as a species.  

I plan on watching the game but it will be bittersweet and if something else comes up...maybe just watch the key plays.  

First post so hopefully the link works...  Summary UGA is 5-0 in the series.

NittanyFan

January 6th, 2023 at 12:20 PM ^

ALL college football games played once the new business year (e.g., on or after the first back-to-work weekday of the year) starts are hard to get excited for.  This goes back 20 years now, even before the playoff.

I get it, I get why college football is played then.  But 1/1 or 1/2 will always feel like college football's "natural" end date.

Vasav

January 6th, 2023 at 12:27 PM ^

I want to be excited - obviously I'm still not over our loss. On paper, it's one team that is trying to go 15-0 and beat a member of every P5 conference (including contenders from 4/5), and the biggest Cinderella story in CFB since the early '80s (take your pick on whether they're bigger than BYU and/or the U). But like nittanyfan said, in addition to our own fanbase-related apathy, the title game happening after the holidays is always a little....like the page has turned. It's always going to feel weird.

smotheringD

January 6th, 2023 at 1:30 PM ^

Same here.  Not sure why it was so devastating.

I guess I'm still kinda pissed that when we needed to make up 3 scores in record time, we could.  So why didn't we do it earlier?  And, like Devin Gardner said, the time for JJ to learn how to not throw pick 6's was when we were 2 or three scores up on ________, any of the teams we crushed earlier in the season.  Just wish we had gotten JJ more reps throwing the ball.

That said, it was still a great season for a first-year QB, beat Staee, the Nuts, and a B1G Championship.

And next year we should be better.

 

Vasav

January 6th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^

I have a theory on why it was devastating - because this team was demonstrably good enough to win the natty. They beat the heck out of a playoff team that just barely missed the natty game. And they themselves just barely missed the natty game. They've still got the most impressive win of anyone in the country, their loss was close and partially self inflicted - I hesitate to say that last part, because TCU deserved to win. Nevertheless, this season was excellent. As CFB fans, we're trained to look at the whole season, and outside of this game M has consistently looked better than anyone but UGA. And against OSU, we looked better than UGA. But on NYE, we were even with TCU, and they were just a bit better.

As excellent as this season was, being a national champion was tantalizingly close and achievable. It wasn't a pipe dream. It was real. But it slipped through. And that is going to sting for a long time. The closest corollary was 2016 - where a truly excellent team lost 3 games by 2 regulation points - and because of that, didn't even get a division co-championship. That loss felt even worse over the subsequent 4 years, and the stain didn't fade until 42-27. This one, the stain won't fade until we win the natty.

MClass87

January 6th, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^

I couldn't give a rat's ass about this game after the refs screwed us out of a game-changing TD versus TCU.  I imagine that this is going to be one of the lowest-watched CFP games in history, but the NCAA gets what they deserve!

Amazinblu

January 6th, 2023 at 12:31 PM ^

87 - Respectfully, it's not the NCAA, it's the CFP Selection Committee.   And, please correct me if I'm wrong - but, wasn't the officiating crew for the semi-final between Michigan and TCU from the SEC?

There is a view that officiating should also be the responsibility of the NCAA - and, not conference specific.

BlueTimesTwo

January 6th, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^

It blew me away to hear that the officials were from the SEC.  Even if the crew was legit (and just happened to be very, very bad at their jobs), they should be from a conference that does not have a HUGE rooting interest in the game.  Do you think Georgia (and hence all of the SEC bandwagoners) would rather play Michigan or TCU?  How is such a huge game allowed to have even the appearance of impropriety?

Beat Rutgerland

January 6th, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^

Given the poor way we preformed, the Harbaugh leaving talk, and the NCAA crap now too, my feelings towards college football aren't great right now.

 

I have a friend who is a Georgia alum, so I'll probably root for them, if I can be bothered to watch, which right now feels like no.

ChuckieWoodson

January 6th, 2023 at 12:32 PM ^

I won't be watching the game because... quite simply... I don't give a damn about the outcome.  TCU wins? Well, good for them.  GA wins?  Congrats you won again.  I don't give a shit.

BoFan

January 6th, 2023 at 12:32 PM ^

Downvoted because you are rooting for UGA:

- the Goliath, the team with all the 5 stars and resources

- the team that embarrassed us last year

- a TCU win over UGA make Michigan look better

- a UGA win will mean more UGA 5* recruiting wins and make them tougher to topple in the future

- a vote for a UGA win is a vote against parity in college football

Nickel

January 6th, 2023 at 12:35 PM ^

Of course I'll watch. If TCU keeps it close I'll do some grumbling about what a golden opportunity Michigan let slip away this year but it's the last college football until August, can't miss that.

MGoGoGo

January 6th, 2023 at 12:41 PM ^

I can't muster any enthusiasm.  Normally, I'd want the team that knocked us out to win as support for an argument that we are likely the second best team and only lost to the eventual champion.  In this case, I just don't care.  TCU has a good team, but Michigan should have beaten them and lost primarily due to stupid mistakes and play calls, with a bit of crap refereeing to top it off.

MRunner73

January 6th, 2023 at 12:41 PM ^

Zero interest! I'll catch the score in the local sports headlines the next morning. I'll probably see a few highlights as well but as the girl (don't know the artists name) sang: I Don't Care!

BKBlue94

January 6th, 2023 at 12:45 PM ^

I'll watch the game because I always do, but I can't bring myself to read any pre-game stuff. Think I'm starting to adjust to the idea that Michigan's not normally in the final and won't be in this one either though

drjaws

January 6th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^

I have zero fucks left to give about this game. I have watched every bowl game (i think) this year, but I won't watch this one.

I can't get the horrific taste of "it should be us" out of my mouth after watching us turn a 10-0 first quarter lead (at a minimum) to trailing 0-14 midway through the first quarter because of pure, unadulterated, incompetence ... damn near malfeasance ... of the offensive play calling. 

Michigan is up 10-0 (or even 14-0) halfway through the first quarter like they fucking should have been had they simply decided to NOT to jam their heads up their asses right before kickoff, that game plays out VERY differently and I guarantee we win.

it is going to take a long time for me to get over how the coaches fucked over the players, fans, alumni, etc. by doing everything they could in the first quarter to NOT do the things that got them there.

Perkis-Size Me

January 6th, 2023 at 1:19 PM ^

The only reason I'd care to see TCU win is I think it would be good for the sport. Better than to just see another predictable SEC win. I don't have any beef with Sonny Dykes and Max Duggan seems like a good dude. 

But at the same time:

1) My wife is a UGA fan, so I kind of can't do that. She pulls hard for Michigan and Georgia beating OSU was extra special for her on Saturday night. 

2) Last week feels like a game where Michigan just gave it away. Credit to TCU, they deserve to be in the title game more than Michigan does. They are a more deserving team. They rose to the occasion better than Michigan did, and even though they made their share of mistakes, they did not let their mistakes beat them. But there's not much you can say that would convince me that if both teams played their best game, that Michigan wouldn't beat them. TCU didn't win that game so much as Michigan just lost it.  

3) I'm a petty, spiteful person in these situations, so yeah, I want TCU to just get run the f**k over. I want TCU to realize that they're simply there because literally everything broke their way this season and they lucked into their situation. Just about any other year, they're an 8-4 to 9-3 team. But they got every possible break they could get. 

If TCU wins on Monday, it will sting even more because it would feel like Michigan truly squandered a chance to win a national title. If Georgia wins, and wins convincingly, I can at least tell myself "Yeah we weren't going to beat Georgia anyway."

If TCU wins, Michigan will have ruined maybe the easiest path to a national title it could've ever had. 

 

M-Dog

January 6th, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^

We need TCU to do well against Georgia.  Here is why:

There is a good possibility that Michigan could be a 1-loss non-Big Ten Champion team next year, yet still be one of the top teams in college football.  We need the CFP committee to be comfortable with the idea of having 2 Big Ten teams in the CFP.  We don't like it, but when they put 2 SEC teams in the CFP, the SEC delivers.

OSU had a good showing against Georgia in the CFP.  Michigan had a sort-of good showing, or at least close game, against TCU.  If TCU shows well against Georgia, then at least it looks like the Big Ten belonged in the CFP with 2 teams, even though those teams did not advance. 

The CFP committee would not have to be hesitant against doing it again next year if the records can justify it.

Next year is shaping up to be a year that Michigan could be a top CFP-level team.  We want every shot possible to get into the playoff.  That chance may not come around for a while after next year.  Who knows what the future holds?    

Logan88

January 6th, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^

I absolutely want TCU to beat UGA.

I want to see confirmation that TCU, is in fact, a team of "destiny" and nothing, and no one, is going to stand in their way of winning it all this season. That would make UM's terrible loss to them somewhat more bearable (for me at least) as it can just be shrugged off as one of those crazy cosmic jokes that happens every century or two.

M-Dog

January 6th, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^

This is the correct answer.

TCU is having a Leicester City FC magic fairy dust and unicorns season.  No mere mortals can stand in their way.  It is willed from above.

Like when we scored 115 points in the NCAA tournament against Loyola Marymount and still lost by 34 points.  I was not even upset, it was destined to be.  No human could stop it.

We will never see TCU in a national championship game again.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

January 6th, 2023 at 2:38 PM ^

dont care. dont want to watch. will tune in and out briefly to be annoyed and then quickly go back to watching whatever avengers/goodfellas/office combo of shit i want to watch on tv.

Only exception if neighbors/friends invite because they are UGa fans... in which case ill begrudgingly go and pretend to be happy

Ronswanson13

January 6th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^

I have a hockey game which I was really hoping to miss, but at least it’ll keep me from sitting there watching the game in a state of depression.

Personally I don’t think it’s even going to be much of a game. Georgia is a more talented version of us and the likelihood of TCU capitalizing on low frequency events in back to back games against the two best teams in the country is about the same as me hitting the Mega Millions tonight.