...talks about how UConn hasn't been in contact and how they're out. (HT: UMHoops)
Shane Morris puts The Game in perspective
November 25th, 2012 at 7:10 PM
#1
Shane Morris puts The Game in perspective
November 25th, 2012 at 7:12 PM | 
Love this kid
Love this kid
November 25th, 2012 at 7:12 PM |
I hate the sore loser jokes
I hate the sore loser jokes
I hate the sore loser jokes about Ohio not going to a bowl after they beat us, but this one made me giggle.
Michigan National Champs: 1901-1904 1918 1923 1932 1933 1947 1948 1997
November 25th, 2012 at 7:21 PM |
Yeah no kidding. Trying to
Yeah no kidding. Trying to
Yeah no kidding. Trying to pretend that going to the Capital One Bowl or the Outback Bowl is something better than going 12-0 is just so lame
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
November 25th, 2012 at 7:26 PM |
I'd rather be 12-0 than
I'd rather be 12-0 than
I'd rather be 12-0 than 8-4...
...but being 8-4 and going to a bowl is better than being 12-0 and a bunch of cheaters. I would hate it if Michigan football had the same rep as Ohio State football. I'm not a huge basketball fan, but it's still embarrassing what happened with Steve Fisher, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, et al.
November 25th, 2012 at 7:54 PM |
,,,not to mention all the
,,,not to mention all the
,,,not to mention all the extra practice time the team gets for going to a bowl.
If you don't ride a camel, you ain't shi'ite.
November 25th, 2012 at 8:42 PM |
I always thought
I always thought
I always thought they should allow non-bowl teams the chance to also practice extra.
For a league that loves to hide behind the "competitive balance" meme, letting the good teams practice more than the bad teams seems weird.
November 25th, 2012 at 8:44 PM |
It's an NCAA rule, not a Big
It's an NCAA rule, not a Big
It's an NCAA rule, not a Big Ten rule.
Back to the topic at hand, this is my favorite joke about the situation:
November 25th, 2012 at 8:42 PM |
just to clarify that
just to clarify that
they dont' get the practice time? Or are they allowed to do that? After all, Delany allowed them to have the Division title!!!!
"your voice is like a combination of Fergie and Jesus. . ."
November 25th, 2012 at 8:56 PM |
The program cheated.
And
The program cheated.
And
The program cheated.
And Michigan's sanctions were BS. They're not on the same level as receiving perks for playing football at the school. You may not believe it because you're apparently an Ohio State fan, but Michigan's sanctions were for extra stretching time that numerous schools use...and just don't get caught.
Also, your then-coach Tressel allowed ineligible players to play. I'd say that's football-related, you know, when your starting QB and starting RB (and a few others) shouldn't even be on the field.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:08 AM |
The "everyone does it"
The "everyone does it"
The "everyone does it" defense only apparently works here and not when pointing out other schools have rude fans. Noted.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
November 26th, 2012 at 11:13 AM |
How do you personally feel
How do you personally feel
How do you personally feel about Tressel and his NCAA violation now that your Buckeyes went undefeated and should be in contention for the National Championship game? Were you among those cheering his return to the 'Shoe on Saturday or did it turn your stomach? Honest question, no vitriol intended. I sat in front of my TV imagining how immensely pissed I would be if I were an OSU fan watching Tressel get carried on shoulders while his former players fight their a--es off only to finish a 12 moral victories.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:29 AM |
I can only speak for myself,
I can only speak for myself,
I can only speak for myself, but I have mixed emotions about it. Part of me is happy because he did being us the best decade we've seen in a long long time. However, I am somewhat aberrant because if he didn't lie, we would be vying for a national championship. However, I feel like even if we didn't have a bowl ban, it would be tough to secure a spot in that game. I think the BCS would be 1. ND, 2. Alabama, 3. OSU, 4. Georgia, 5. Oregon. And I think the winner of the SEC championship would jump OSU. So, I would see OSU beating Nebraska in a close game, then playing Stanford in the Rose Bowl. That's just me though.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:50 PM |
Tressel deserved to be fired
Tressel deserved to be fired
Tressel deserved to be fired and is the man responsible for our pending January inactivity. But the dude was a legend here for 10 years. One mistkae doesn't make me hate him. I'll support him forever. That doesn't mean I think he did the right thing--far from it--but when someone you care about for so long screws up, you don't just lose feelings for them.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
November 26th, 2012 at 3:06 PM |
They weren't honoring
They weren't honoring
They weren't honoring Tressel, they were honoring Craig Krenzel, Will Smith, Cie Grant, Will Allen, Chris Gamble, Michael Jenkins, Drew Carter, and the rest of the 2002 National Championship team. Tressel happened to coach that team. I cheered, yes. Do I still like Tressel as much as I did pre-TP? No. Do I still appreciate everything good he did for the University? Yes.
November 26th, 2012 at 4:15 PM |
If we had won,
If we had won,
You would be with the rest of your chorts, hiding under a rock!
November 25th, 2012 at 9:00 PM |
Dear "ohio" fan
Dear "ohio" fan
Thanks for visiting our board! I know you are worried!!
Coach Hoke says "Hi"!
November 25th, 2012 at 9:27 PM |
I too am concerned about
I too am concerned about
I too am concerned about Urban's 0.500 record against Michigan, but thanks for visiting us. I know you should get back on the road delivering your next shipment to Walmart.
November 25th, 2012 at 9:48 PM |
Um
Um
Hate to break it to ya, but Urban Myer is 1-0 vs. Michigan. Fickell was their coach last year.
not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user
November 25th, 2012 at 9:54 PM |
I seem to remember this
I seem to remember this
I seem to remember this happening against Meyer in the Capital One bowl.
Like I said Meyer is 0.500 against Michigan.
November 26th, 2012 at 3:21 AM |
You beating Meyer in Florida
You beating Meyer in Florida
You beating Meyer in Florida doesn't have any relevance to him coaching the Buckeyes. Buckeye fans don't care if he lost to Michigan while coaching Florida, he's 1-0 against Michigan as the Buckeyes coach. Also, I hope you realize that Mattison was the Defensive Coordinator in that game under Meyer.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:01 AM |
Yet, Brady Hoke's overall
Yet, Brady Hoke's overall
Yet, Brady Hoke's overall record at San Diego State and BSU is somehow relevant? Silly buckeye logic and reasoning.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:26 AM |
I never once brought up
I never once brought up
I never once brought up Hoke's record at different schools, that was a different Buckeye poster. I do agree with you that Hoke's record at other schools are not relevant. He's 1-1 against Ohio State. Hoke is a good coach who turned around two bad programs. Also, you shouldn't lump all Buckeyes illogical reasonings into one as some, like myself, are able to have thoughtful discussions even with Michigan fans.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:10 AM |
You are definitely right
You are definitely right
You are definitely right about not grouping Ohio fans together. Unfortunately, you are swimming against a strong riptide and establishing yourself is going to be difficult due to the idiocity (new word) of the vast majority of Ohio fans that appear on this Board. Apologies to you on behalf of your bretheren.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
November 26th, 2012 at 11:19 AM |
I understand and accept that.
I understand and accept that.
I understand and accept that. Every fan base has their bad apples. However, I know that every school has their fair share of fans who can actually hold an intelligent discussion without throwing out stupid things. On Eleven Warriors, there a few Michigan fans that comment and are intelligent, well spoken commenters. I hope to run into the same fans here.
November 26th, 2012 at 6:43 PM |
You will be treated like a
You will be treated like a
You will be treated like a douche until you stop making douchey remarks like that.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
November 26th, 2012 at 7:08 PM |
How was that comment in any
How was that comment in any
How was that comment in any way douchey? All I said was that school has stupid fans, OSU included. However, I met some cool Michigan fans on Eleven Warriors who I had civil conversations with. I expect the same here. In no way is that douchey or being a troll.
November 26th, 2012 at 8:55 PM |
Yes, I agree with you.
Yes, I agree with you.
Yes, I agree with you.
M'Dog
November 26th, 2012 at 8:59 PM |
Perhaps my snark-o-meter
Perhaps my snark-o-meter
Perhaps my snark-o-meter isn't functioning properly, but I took, "I hope to run into the same fans here" to mean "No one here is civil." If not, my apologies.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
November 27th, 2012 at 9:11 AM |
I am sorry for that shot
I am sorry for that shot
I am sorry for that shot towards all buckeyes. The illogical reasoning comment was more directed towards the troll that originally posted the comment about Hoke's overall record at BSU and SDS. You seem like an intelligent individual. I hope you stay around.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:58 PM |
Isn't Brady Hoke .500 against
Isn't Brady Hoke .500 against
Isn't Brady Hoke .500 against OSU?!
November 26th, 2012 at 9:00 PM |
He is now. God damn it Al
He is now. God damn it Al
He is now. God damn it Al Borges.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
November 26th, 2012 at 2:44 PM |
Oh
Oh
Yeah, that one counts I suppose. I was referring to him as coach at OSU, but you're right.
not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user
November 25th, 2012 at 9:55 PM |
Hate to break it to yaq, but
Hate to break it to yaq, but
Hate to break it to yaq, but your reading comprehension sucks. Also, go look it up. Urban Meyer vs. UM: 1-1.
November 25th, 2012 at 9:56 PM |
Yeah....There was a certain
Yeah....There was a certain
Yeah....There was a certain bowl game against the Florida Gators...the only bowl game one Tim Tebow lost.
November 26th, 2012 at 10:47 AM |
Acting like OSU fans give two
Acting like OSU fans give two
Acting like OSU fans give two shits about Urban's record against Michigan at programs other than OSU makes less than zero sense.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
November 27th, 2012 at 9:13 AM |
so does believing Michigan
so does believing Michigan
so does believing Michigan fans care about Brady's record at BSU and SDS. Yet here we are.
November 25th, 2012 at 11:20 PM |
Believe me
Believe me
we are real worried here about Urban too. He leaves sleeze where ever he goes. Not so much worried about what he does to ohio, but the B1G doesn't need any more sleeze than you've already given us.
If there's an exceptionalism to Michigan—the school and the sports—it's a focus on being exceptional over whether we appear to be so. MGOBLOG
November 25th, 2012 at 10:57 PM |
Tressell LIED !!
Tressell LIED !!
At least try to know what your coach and AD were guilty of.
---Players breaking NCAA policy
---Coaches and administrators hiding it.
---Coaches and possibly others lying about it to the NCAA
---Ineligable players on field.
Nice job BTW of honoring a man with no honor last Saturday.
"non bastardo carberundum" ("don't let the bastards grind you down")
November 26th, 2012 at 1:06 PM |
With all due respect, that
With all due respect, that
With all due respect, that ACTION had no honor, but are we defined in total by one given action? If so, no one on this planet has any honor.
Jim Tressel did MULTITUDES of positive things for the community and his players.
Yes, I'm a Buckeye fan. No, I'm not proud of that whole scandal. Yes, I am proud of Jim Tressel's career at OSU mostly as a whole, but not the last bit of it.
Good game Saturday - it was cool to see both teams fired up for The Game.
November 26th, 2012 at 11:25 AM |
The bowl ban is because your fired coach knowingly played
The bowl ban is because your fired coach knowingly played
Ineligible players. He also lied about it 3 times, because he thought he had a shot at a national title.
You then honored a liar and a cheat, as well as a team that won with Maurice Clarett.....Ohio State, the beacon of morals, and integrity.
For your reading pleasure:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/07/15/tressel-ohio-state-records.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919246
Here's one of my favorite parts:
"But few know why Clarett kept answering "I don't know" to the NCAA's questions. The NCAA kept asking where he got his cash, cars and trinkets, and Clarett claims he kept saying "I don't know" or "I just magically got them" or "I don't remember." Geiger was furious with him for that, and the NCAA ran him out for that. But Clarett says he lied to save his coach's hide, lied because he thought his coach would convince Geiger to keep him eligible, lied because he didn't want to implicate the men in Columbus with deep pockets."
Janeane Garofalo (Film Actors Guild): "As actors it is our responsibility to read the newspaper, and then say what we read on television like it's our opinion"
November 26th, 2012 at 9:03 AM |
Amen
Amen
Well said.
In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel.
November 25th, 2012 at 7:42 PM |
Disagree. I would rather be
Disagree. I would rather be
Disagree. I would rather be 8-4 with a clean program, than 12-0 and paying our players with tats, weed, and cars.
November 25th, 2012 at 9:28 PM |
I never said we were
I never said we were
I never said we were perfectly clean. Since you brought it up... stretching vs. Free Tats/Weed/Cars...One is not like the other. I guess they don't teach basic logic and reading comprehension at Ohio State.
Since I am a certified in secondary mathematics education, I could help you learn basic logic.
November 25th, 2012 at 10:02 PM |
It was a bit more than
It was a bit more than
It was a bit more than stretching. 5 extra de facto coaches, coaches observing off-season workouts, and exceeding in-season practice limits (every other team had to do their stretching during the alloted 20 hours). You're telling me that five extra coaches doesn't confer any competitive advantage?
November 25th, 2012 at 10:11 PM |
It didn't that year
It didn't that year
.
November 25th, 2012 at 10:20 PM |
Did you see us with Rich Rod
Did you see us with Rich Rod
Did you see us with Rich Rod in 2008...? All of those violations are minor violations in nature. However, due to the Michigan athletic department coming off of probation due to the Fab Five fiasco, the violations were deemed major by the NCAA.
It wasn't five extra coaches. It was five extra athletic trainers that oversaw stretching. Let's not forget that we invited the NCAA into our AD unlike Ohio State that chose to stonewall. If the NCAA looked at Ohio's compliance department i am sure they would find the same violations.
November 25th, 2012 at 10:38 PM |
OSU initially reported
OSU initially reported
OSU initially reported Tressel's violation in January and invited NCAA investigators to interview Tressel and others who may have been involved. NCAA investigators were on campus from February through May or June. OSU cooperated fully.
As for the QA staffers, they "regularly monitored and conducted skill-development activities," and coached players on technique. That's more than stretching. Coaches were also in attendance at 7-on-7 drills in the offseason. That's more than stretching. They were major violations.
November 25th, 2012 at 10:56 PM |
This is wholly inaccurate
This is wholly inaccurate
I understand you need to lie to yourself to validate the last ten years of your program's outright cheating under Tressel. You know you've been dirty. But just accept that was what happened and move on. This Ohio fan tendency toward revisionism is maddening and, ultimately, delusional.
First, Tressel knew of the issues at play re: tatgate, cars, Pryor, Herron etc. in April 2010. Allegations related to TPeezy surfaced in public in December of 2010 and, if you recall, Gene Smith conducted a forthright internal investigation (he evidently shuffled some paper and called your crack compliance staff) before telling the B1G, BCS and NCAA that all was fine. Of course, he had obfuscated in order to enable player to compete against Arkansas.
OSU did minimize and limit reporting in January and this led to the ridiculous presser with E. Gordon Gee, Smith and Tressel with the "fire me" quote.
NCAA investigators were on campus at Ohio because novel allegations kept coming up with new evidence (and as such TPeezy took the supplemental route so he could avoid testifying to the NCAA) and Tressel got the opportunity to work for the Indianapolis Colts.
I don't mind the myopic idiocy of Ohio fans. It is who you are. However, your continuous lying to yourselves about what happened (as if that will make it go away) is pointless.
Engage in revisionism all you want but you can't deny the truth.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7372757/ohio-state-buckey...
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
November 25th, 2012 at 11:05 PM |
Read it again, moron. I know
Read it again, moron. I know
Read it again, moron. I know reading is a difficult skill to learn due to the shitty state of public education in Ohio. Even though teachers are getting dragged across hot coals in Michigan, there is a reason I am avoiding teaching in Toledo/NC Ohio.
Among other violations, U-M acknowledged that quality-control staffers improperly conducted voluntary summer workouts and were present “on occasion” for voluntary seven-on-seven scrimmages during the summer.
Thanks for ignoring the main point that each of these violations were secondary in nature, but were bumped up to major due to AD probation that was ending.
November 25th, 2012 at 11:14 PM |
Oh, sorry. In Ohio, we learn
Oh, sorry. In Ohio, we learn
Oh, sorry. In Ohio, we learn to use primary sources rather than media summaries. I was going from the NCAA Committee on Infractions report, which stated that:
"[T]he five quality control staff members monitored and conducted skill-development activities with student-athletes, offered advice on technique to student-athletes during practices and critiqued film with student-athletes...For example, three quarterbacks stated that the quality control staffer who worked with them conducted and led drills designed to improve their drop backs, play fakes and roll outs, among other skills. The quality control staff member called out plays, and the quarterbacks were required to perform the footwork associated with the play. The staff member corrected the quarterbacks if mistakes were made in techniques pertaining to dropping back, handoffs and footwork...From January 2008 through September 2009, the quality control staff members watched game and/or practice film with football student-athletes and provided advice and/or corrections to the football student-athletes pertaining to technique and plays. This activity only occurred occasionally but, as it is defined as a coaching function, it can only be performed by the designated members of the coaching staff."
You can find it at http://www.annarbor.com/2010/11/04/NCAA-Michigan-report.pdf.
he's gonna be a fine addition to the program, lolz all around