My scouting report this week is on Chicago (IL) Marist tight end Nic Weishar. Tight end isn't the sexiest position, but it appears Al Borges wants to bring in several guys and use them in various ways. Weishar plays wide receiver in high school, so he's used to catching passes, but he's not quite the athlete that someone like Devin Funchess is.
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/01/scouting-report-nic-weishar.html
Assuming we do not land
My guess is we would look to
My guess is we would look to take two - one true TE, one H-back type. That would make us three-deep at both positions.
Not a huge difference in opinion
But my feeling is they are really looking for one, and if they get two then fine. But I doubt they range far outside of their early offers to fill a second spot at TE. With fewer scholarships in 2014, I think five TEs is alright. TE is a good position to have walk-ons/position changes to fill out depth.
Not saying they won't take two if the player is right, but I think if it is two, one will be a high target.
Even though the 2014 class
Even though the 2014 class looks small right now, it will swell with attrition and what not.
Also, the fact that Michigan has had to use walk-ons and position changes to fill out depth there in the past couple of years does not mean that's the preferred method.
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I agree that 2014 will swell
I agree that 2014 will swell up a bit, and I agree that using walk-ons isn't the preferred method for depth.
However, I do believe that (outside of FB) TE is the easiest spot for a walk-on to contribute. Finding a Mike Kwiatkowski is a lot less rare than a Kovacs or a walk-on at most other spots. A TE doesn't need to have elite athleticism, he just needs to be tall and like 245, which isn't tough after a few years in college S&C. I agree that it's not preferred and it probably won't be necessary with how we're recruiting the position, but if a guy we've never heard of shows up on the TE depth chart, I'll be much less surprised than if he does so at LB or WR or something like that.
Obviously not the preferred method
But I think you start addressing needs elsewhere before TE. A single walk-on or position change as your third string TE (or your #6 TE overall) isn't a huge deal (in a crunch you can have an H-back play TE, a FB play TE, a FB play H-back, etc).
By taking 4 (or 5 if you count Shallman) the previous two years, I think the coaches start looking at spreading it out a bit more as it isn't an immediate need now. Probably one in 2014 and then back to two in 2015. I think it bounces back and forth from here on out between one and two, two when you can get your hands on a special talent, one pretty much otherwise (or after a couple years of only getting one). I think the staff wants at least one a year, and I don't think they will want 8 TEs on the roster at the same time (as some will surely redshirt, which means 8+ players at a postion that has a generous average of 1.5 players on the field at a time). I think 6/7 is a preferable number down the road spread out over 4/5 years. Six (or seven) in three years is a bit much.
I think whether we take 1 or 2 in 2014
will depend on how the Smythe recruitment goes. If he comes here, then I see no more than one in 2014. If not it could possibly be two if we can a couple high quality guys.
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True. I don't think Michigan
True. I don't think Michigan would take 2 guys if Smythe committed. But I don't think Smythe is coming to Michigan, perhaps not even for a visit. I think we're #3 behind Stanford and Notre Dame.
way off topic but
I following recruiting and i still dont understand how a team like Texas AM can have 35 committs right now and i know they are verbal but they still are in on 4 or 5 more top players and the reason i replied to yours magnus is cause u seem to know more than most on here. if this is not the right place let me know cause i am new to how points work etc.
I have issues posting to TTB
I have issues posting to TTB at work because the anonymous option doesn't appear available, and gmail is blocked.
At any rate, I see Marist HS, and assume it's catholic. It seems like every catholic I met (from the Chicago area) seems to be a Notre Dame fan. I was curious as to whether or not he's favoring ND, if he's revealed any such info.
Also, thanks for the evaluation, you say he could potentially develop into an all-conference type player, in the right system... you'd think with the success of Devin Funchess, Al Borges would have a decent sales pitch.
Touchdown Michigan!
247 Sports says Notre Dame is
247 Sports says Notre Dame is Weishar's favorite.
Notable exception:
Wheaton St. Francis? Maybe too far from Chicago.
St Francis
St Francis isn't very far from Chicago. It's about 40 mins or less into the city from Wheaton. I don't live very far from St Francis
Could this be someone we take
Could this be someone we take on or around signing day (like Norfleet) IF we strike out with Green?
"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."
2014!
From TTB it appears he's in the class of 2014 so I don't think that would be necessary if we strike out with Green
Damnit, I should really read
Damnit, I should really read the whole thing next time.
So who's this years Norfleet?
"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."
It seems as though there will
It seems as though there will not be a Norfleet this year
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Weishar
I have no insight on where Weishar is leaning, or if Michigan would need him in the 2014 class.
However, I went to school with Weishar's cousin (a Michigan graduate). I know that he has been in this kid's ear for years about Michigan and they visited Ann Arbor together this past fall. Take that for what it's worth, but I wouldn't think that he is an ND lean as suggested above.
He seemed to be high on ND
He seemed to be high on ND early on but he seems to be developing a relationship with Ferns so who knows now.
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i also know Weishar's cousin
who is a UM grad and here's the latest:
Nice offer list and it's good
Nice offer list and it's good to hear that Ferns is in his ear already.
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
ND is the Favorite
I played football with his brother, Andrew at Illinois Wesleyan. Andrew recently died of cancer. It was very sad but the entire family is a class act and Nic would be a great addition. However, from talking to Nic personally ND is the favorite, he really likes Northwestern, he was very excited by the OSU offer. Not saying there isn't a chance but...
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Tight end isn't the sexiest position
tee hee
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I read the title as
"Nice Weather".
(needs sleep)
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Awesome avatar pic.
Awesome avatar pic.
Greetings from Bolivia.
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thanks!
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Deeply.
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Tight End isn't the sexiest
Tight End isn't the sexiest position
Jake Butt disagrees, Magnus
/Goes back to 6th grade
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A quick glance
At the paragraph led me to believe that Weishar is a Marxist.
Hail To The Victors!
Can he shoot the three?
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I'm fine with Nic if
he is another Tyler Ecker. Good compliment to Funchess and excellent safety valve for a QB. Check.
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Assuming we do not land another TE in this class, how many do you think we'll take in the 2014 class? Michigan seems to be in pursuit of a lot of 2014 TEs. I know you can't put all your time into 1 or 2 recruits but I would imagine that even 2 TEs this class would be a lot.