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January 30th, 2018 at 2:23 PM
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OT: Talking Cars Tuesday - Auto Show Time

Back after some travel it's your (non) favorite automotive discussion on a college sports website.

So, NAIAS just finished up at Cobo Hall and I'm looking forward to heading to the (world's largest!) Chicago Auto Show in a couple of weeks here. I'm excited in that my wife's lease is up later this year so we'll actually get to go as car shoppers. I find the auto show great for that because

  1. You can look at all the cars in one place. No going to 5 different dealers to look at 5 models
  2. Along those lines, you can see how the seats fit, how big the trunks are, etc. so that when you do go to a dealer you can worry about driving the car
  3. No sales people - no pressure to buy!
     

Anyone head to Cobo? Any new debuts have you all kinds of excited? I'm traveling for work next week, so this thread will be spotty at least until the "real" offseason

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January 30th, 2018 at 2:45 PM
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I went to cobo

Over the weekend and was pleasantly surprised at how much time I spent enjoying the Alfa lineup. Both the Giulia and Stevio in Quadrifoglio trim are great looking, with amazing performance. I love that Alfa is making a comeback, and I expect to see more of them on the road going forward. We saw a few other cool things, but the Alfa’s were the surprise for me.

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January 30th, 2018 at 2:47 PM
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Alfa does make beautiful cars

But I'd never buy one.  I learned that lesson already with my Jaguar (RIP).

I didn't make it to the show this year.  The last time I went it was just way too packed with people, most of whom did not smell so nice.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:14 PM
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I used to drive an Alfa Romeo

I used to drive an Alfa Romeo Spider - the two seater convertible. I bought it new in 1988. I had no problems until they pulled out of North America and the dealer no longer serviced them. I then had to find someone to do routine maintenance. I found two different guys who ran their own shops, and they dissed each other and told me not to trust the other one. That's when I sold it. I still regret it. 

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:21 PM
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I remember you mentioning

that car.  It's still beautiful, even today.  Now that Alfa is coming back, you should treat yourself.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/alfa-romeo/spider/2058528.html

 

 

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:03 PM
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I plan to get to the Chicago auto show

and I'm also interested in the Giulia.  Looks great and the performance/driving experience sounds very good based on the auto mag reviews.  However, I have major concerns about reliability and cost of service, so that puts a big damper on my enthusiasm.  I'm going to go drive one, but I'm going to supress lust for a hot Italian car when making my buying decision.

Also interested in looking at the new Audi A5 Sportbacks.  I liked the previous A5.  It looked great, but two door coupes just aren't very practical and typically suffer in value.  I went to the Audi dealer and test drove the previous generation A5 and had to go through major contortions to get into the back seat.  So, the 4 door Sportback looks like a much better solution.

I try to avoid weekends when going to the auto show.  It gets crazy and kids climb all over the cars making it more difficult to check them out.  I'll head down in the afternoon on a week day.

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January 30th, 2018 at 5:20 PM
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Also heading to Chicago ...

as I've been to the Chicago show  the last 2 years.  Since I've never attended the Detroit show, I have heard that Detroit offers more concept cars than the Chicago show.  Is this true ?  Two years ago Chicago did have a number of concept cars, but last year that portion of the show was essentially non-existant.  For those that went to the Detroit show - were there many concept vehicles this year ?

Go Blue!

 

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January 31st, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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Debuts

Detroit gets more debuts and concept reveals, but most of the cars at Detroit will be at Chicago too. Chicago doesn't get many debuts, typically Detroit, New York, and LA get the big debuts in the US

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:14 PM
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Great looking exteriors, very

Great looking exteriors, very cheap interiors. All of the trim was chaep plastic, nothing was leather wrapped.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:40 PM
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I was disappointed in the

I was disappointed in the interior too until I reminded myself the Giulia really is only about a $35K car and I had just gotten done looking at all the $80K Audis and such like.  The $72K model was way nicer, as well.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:00 PM
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The only cars I was

The only cars I was interested in sitting in, they kept locked.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:22 PM
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that makes me really fucking angry

Don't bring the damn car if you don't want the plebs touching it.

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January 30th, 2018 at 5:46 PM
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AMEN

That drives me nuts. 'You aren't good enough to sit in my car'. Bite me big boy. 

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:11 PM
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NAIAS

Heard it was a dud this year. Not much in the way of innovation. Not even the full lineup of new cars for the big 3/Honda.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:12 PM
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didn't make it

but saw a ton of pics. I'm the non standard guy. I love sitting in Accords, Chargers, Miatas, etc. instead of looking at the 120K G wagon I'll never afford. 

The Trackhawk looked neat. And I liked the Bullit. 

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:13 PM
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Miata wasn't there, as Mazda

Miata wasn't there, as Mazda wasn't :(

The Fiat 124 Spider was, so the Miata was there in spirit...

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:16 PM
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I'm not a mustang fan by any stretch but that

I'm not a mustang fan by any stretch but that Bullitt was sweet!

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January 30th, 2018 at 5:14 PM
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I'm looking forward

to the auto show in Denver in early April as I will be car shopping. I guess I am non standard, because I look at the practical vehicles I might buy.  It is a great way to compare all the vehicles next to each other and start narrowing down your search before driving some.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:22 PM
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2019 Insight looked

2019 Insight looked promising. It actually looks like a real conventional sedan for once.

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:28 PM
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It should

Would a Civic hybrid with another name smell as sweet?

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January 30th, 2018 at 4:20 PM
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Right on. Still looks nice

Right on. Still looks nice though

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January 30th, 2018 at 3:34 PM
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Went a couple years ago

I would do unforgivable things for a new NSX.

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January 30th, 2018 at 4:02 PM
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Like murder your wife? 

Like murder your wife? 

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January 30th, 2018 at 4:08 PM
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same here

Even for the first generation model.  That car was sexy as fuck.

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January 30th, 2018 at 4:16 PM
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and speaking of sexy cars

I saw something very similar to this the other day by my house.  It must have been a preproduction 8 Series.  It was stunning.

 

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January 31st, 2018 at 10:33 AM
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Rich people have all the

Rich people have all the fun...

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