OT: Red Wings and NHL open thread
So far I'm watching Montreal vs Boston. That crowd is really amped. Great thing is, CBC and VS have different games on. I also get Philly vs Buffalo.
Pittsburgh vs Tampa is also on, but I don't get that.
Wings vs Phoenix at 10:30 of course!
GO WINGS
April 18th, 2011 at 11:55 PM ^
None here. I'm not the one who got butthurt over an off hand comment about Shane Doan. And I do watch plenty of NHL hockey not involving the wings, Mr Hockey Elite.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
"Butthurt"? Not so much. I just thought it was an uneducated comment to make. That's all.
"And I do watch plenty of NHL hockey not involving the wings,"
I bet you do...
"Mr Hockey Elite."
Thanks. I take that as a compliment.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:05 AM ^
It's not all that uneducated. Doan was suspended more games this year than the entire Detroit Red Wings team. A team which includes Todd Bertuzzi, former captain of the NHL goon squad.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:11 AM ^
First, the Bertuzzi comment isn't really relevant. For example, how many games has Bertuzzi been suspended during his entire NHL career for events not involving Steve Moore? Second, it's somewhat hard to really fault a player of Doan's tenure all that much in that situation. Doan is in his 16th NHL season and for the prior 15 seasons that suspension would have never happened. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong, but rather that in a case like that it's hard to change some habits. Heck, just think about how many games Scott Stevens would have been suspended if he were still playing. That said, those three games of suspension for Doan this year consist of his entire career total. Not exactly the mark of a "goon".
April 19th, 2011 at 12:47 AM ^
and you only watch your teams in sports than aren't football because at some point it just is too much.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:47 PM ^
FWIW, this is the last season for the yotes anyways.
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS
April 18th, 2011 at 11:32 PM ^
Last year Howard went on all fours outside the crease to cover the puck. Doan could have crashed into him, but instead jumped over him, couldn't stop himself from crashing into the boards and got hurt. I'll give him credit for that.
He may not be a goon, but crosschecking Lidstrom after the whistle is goonish. He could go after someone closer to his size, at least.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^
At least it was old guy on old guy, I guess.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:01 AM ^
Yes, credit Doan for that. Also be aware that he clearly intended to knee Franzen into the boards last night when Franzen was down. So he avoids goalies but takes cheap shots at other players. He is not a good because he clearly has skill and plays the game hard (and yes, I am sure I would like him on my team) but he DOES take cheap shots on occassion (as does JovoCop).
April 18th, 2011 at 11:19 PM ^
Lots of wings fans there
April 18th, 2011 at 11:33 PM ^
Random question: Since Jimmy Howard played in the USNDTP, did he go to high school at Pioneer like many of the others do? I can't seem to find any info on the internet.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:35 PM ^
Yea he did, looks like he went for one year
http://www.heritage.com/articles/2010/11/30/sports/doc4cf5a31c9fb5b142460271.txt
April 18th, 2011 at 11:37 PM ^
A commercial completely in Spanish for the governments "Let's Move" campaign supposed to make kids not be fat?
Why are they playing a commercial in spanish during a HOCKEY GAME that is terrible marketing government.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^
Because the other team involved in this game is located (for now) in Phoenix?
April 18th, 2011 at 11:41 PM ^
http://www.stream2watch.com/index.php?option=com_videolist&view=video&I…
A stream for those of us that don't understand that p2p thing.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^
Just be sure to NOT download the fake VLC player update they ask for. It's an add, probably not safe.
MaizeAndHonoluluBlue is not responsible for any viruses, trojans, or other bad things that might, but probably won't, happen to your computer by visiting shady illegal video streaming websites.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:42 PM ^
Filppula!!
April 18th, 2011 at 11:47 PM ^
April 18th, 2011 at 11:52 PM ^
WOOT!!!! and the soundtrack is the Holy Triumverant of rock RUSH! Spirit of radio is an awesome song.
April 19th, 2011 at 10:37 AM ^
I showed my daughter the monkeys riding dogs herding pigs and she shared this...
Monkey riding a pig backwards.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^
Niiiice. I gotta disagree with that penalty call though.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:47 PM ^
But the game is broadcast on Versus and Fox Sports Detroit. I guess I understand it in the Phoenix area, but why broadcast it in Spanish nationally?
April 18th, 2011 at 11:51 PM ^
I think the rational would be, right or wrong, that the vast majority of people who are not Red Wings fans or from Arizona could care less about this game and aren't watching, so the fact that it's a "national" broadcast isn't really relevant.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:53 PM ^
The only latin player I can think of is Louis Mendoza...from D2
April 18th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^
What does a player's ethnicity have to do with it?
April 18th, 2011 at 11:59 PM ^
i am just saying ice hockey has perhaps the lowest latin presence of any subpopulation in the united states and canada.
hence, the ad campaign makes zero sense
April 18th, 2011 at 11:59 PM ^
Probably, but I still don't know what that has to do with the number of latino players...
April 19th, 2011 at 12:01 AM ^
demographics, my friend.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:04 AM ^
I get that you're trying to make the "fan identification requires ethnic identification" argument. I think that's a stretch without much (or any) support in North American hockey, at least outside of Quebec.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:07 AM ^
yep, there really isn't anyone from the latin demographic those in the subpopulation can identitfy with.
while as a slovak, I have the Hossas.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:12 AM ^
I get your point, I just don't agree with it. I just don't understand watching a game or not watching a game based upon whether or not there are players who share my ethnicity. That just makes no sense to me...
April 18th, 2011 at 11:56 PM ^
The way I was looking at it, what percentage of the people watching this game, in Phoenix and across the nation, speak Spanish at all, or even as a second language, compared to those watching who speak it as their primary language. I'd bet there aren't too many people who speak Spanish watching the game regardless - its hockey not soccer
April 18th, 2011 at 11:56 PM ^
PPG, Phoenix.
April 18th, 2011 at 11:59 PM ^
That's what I'm saying
April 19th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
I think he was just attempting to make a connection between anyone latino and hockey - whether being playing, coaching, or a fan - and he came up with one person.
I.e:
not a lot of latino players = not a lot of latino fans = not a lot of latinos watching the game compared to white people
April 19th, 2011 at 12:05 AM ^
"not a lot of latino players = not a lot of latino fans = not a lot of latinos watching the game compared to white people"
You really think that latinos wouldn't watch hockey because there aren't many latinos playing in the game?
April 19th, 2011 at 12:06 AM ^
I just looked thru your comments in this thread and you seem to be the uneducated one...there is no way you can argue the statement that Doan is a dirty player
April 19th, 2011 at 12:21 AM ^
Care to elaborate on that? I mean, seriously, you're not going to find many people who would seriously argue that Shane Doan is a "goon" or a "dirty player". That's honestly one of the more bizarre statements to make. His career just doesn't bear it out. I mean, seriously, this is a guy who has been suspended three games in his entire NHL career and who who has only accrued more than 100 PIM in a season twice. Hell, he's only been over 75 PIM in a season four times. In a 16 year NHL career. That's hardly the mark of a "goon" or a "dirty player". But yeah, how could anyone argue that he's not a "goon" or a "dirty player". Silly me...
April 19th, 2011 at 12:13 AM ^
I get that youre trying to make the 'fan identification requires ethnic identification' argument. I think thats a stretch without much (or any) support in North American hockey, at least outside of Quebec.
I never said it "requires" ethnic identification. Sure, there may be some latinos watching, but literally it MIGHT be like 10% total.
You really think that latinos wouldnt watch hockey because there arent many latinos playing in the game?
I don't watch MLS soccer playoffs, do you?
April 19th, 2011 at 12:15 AM ^
"I never said..."
You do realize that I wasn't responding to you, right? That's why my comment came sequentially after someone else's comment, not your comment.
"I don't watch MLS soccer playoffs, do you?"
I don't watch the MLS period, but that has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the players. It does, however, have everything to do with the fact that I don't really like soccer.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:16 AM ^
I went to an MLS soccer game in Chicago - 90% of the people there were hispanic and the entire game was announced in Spanish, advertisments at the game were in Spanish, etc.
MLS attendance and fan-ship is widely the latino population.
On the contrary, hockey is a very 'white'/northern sport. It is naturally played in cold weather areas on ice, not found in most latino countries, so not many grow up fans.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:18 AM ^
You don't watch because you don't like it. Likely about 10-15% of latinos "like" hockey, thus maybe 10-15% of latinos might be watching this broadcast at this time. No one is talking about watching or not watching based on what race the player's are, but just the correlation between race and fan-ship by sport.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:24 AM ^
"No one is talking about watching or not watching based on what race the player's are, but just the correlation between race and fan-ship by sport."
You obviously missed the prior thread on this subject because quite a few people here argued just that.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:27 AM ^
"Likely about 10-15% of latinos "like" hockey, thus maybe 10-15% of latinos might be watching this broadcast at this time."
Do you have anything, at all, to back that up with?
April 19th, 2011 at 12:28 AM ^
I don't watch hockey to just watch people play a sport. Does anyone? If you do it for that reason why not watch curling? People watch a certain sport because they like that sport - but there is a correlation between fanship by sport and race
April 19th, 2011 at 12:33 AM ^
"but there is a correlation between fanship by sport and race"
Do you have anything, at all, to back that up with? I mean, seriously, I'd like to see some data on that.
April 19th, 2011 at 12:31 AM ^
Franzen!!!
April 19th, 2011 at 12:43 AM ^
has some of the best hands in the league.