OT: NFL MNF Open Thread
Can't believe this isnt up yet. Game 1 is about halfway over (no seriously it's COMPLETELY over) as Chip Kelly is demonstrating that yes....the spread (for one game anyways) can work in the NFL and yes.....a college coach can make the jump to the NFL quite nicely thank you.
Speaking as a Browns fan it kills me to think how close we came to getting Kelly which certainly would've meant the end of this guy in Cleveland but nooooooo...
September 9th, 2013 at 9:23 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:33 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:37 PM ^
I'm not sure I understand your question. Did you put your post in the right thread?
September 9th, 2013 at 9:44 PM ^
There's a deleted comment saying something like "it's one game, Kelly is still going to get destroyed" which is just a baseless thing to say.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
Correct.
September 10th, 2013 at 3:32 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:39 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:25 PM ^
McCoy is carrying my fantasy team this week with Megatron only getting a little over 5 pts.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:27 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:27 PM ^
Philadelphia is closing in on 400 yards of offense. By my estimates, they've only got about 30 yards or so to go in order to reach this mark. In most regards, and as much as might be possible in the NFL, the Redskins are being thoroughly Oregon'd at the moment.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:31 PM ^
Eagles look sweet
September 9th, 2013 at 9:36 PM ^
With Brandon Weeden running the show we might not see 400 yards of offense for three games. I cannot begin to describe how excited and pumped the crowd was entering the stadium and how deflated and dissapointed everyone was leaving it.
This idiot got freaking stuck under the American flag last year during warmups. I was there and still can't believe it....
September 9th, 2013 at 9:38 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:39 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:46 PM ^
I was thinking about this every time the announcers mentioned how many plays the Eagles have run. Granted, it's a boatload, but it's also due to Washington turning it over a boatload.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:48 PM ^
This game feels a bit like the Eagles playing really well on offense and Washington playing pretty poorly. I definitely think Kelly will be a good coach in the NFL, but let's pump the brakes on his offense dominating against everyone.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^
as much as I want this to be all about Kelly's offense, Washington is playing horribly.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:49 PM ^
Seems to be a fair amount of both.
Of course, as I'm typing this, Washington just forced a nice fumble with a solid return.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:50 PM ^
For some inexplicable reason I find it much easier to root for Kelly now that he's no longer the coach at Oregon.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^
Don't worry mgrowold, the ravages of age will take care of your Weeden problem soon enough.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:55 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^
The Browns should sign Favre! He's got another couple good years in him, I bet.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:58 PM ^
That might be the funniest thing I've heard about our QB ever. I would so love to see his Wonderlic test score cause watching him over the past two years I cant help think he's Jeff George kinda dumb.
But hey...at least he's patriotic - right?
September 9th, 2013 at 10:09 PM ^
That's amazing.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:54 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
The Eagles' D looked to be doing pretty good. Three TOs, and their line has been terrorizing RGIII. Admittedly, Washington has looked pretty terrible, so I'm not sure how much is actually the Eagles.
September 9th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
Well that was disconcerting. I'd like to see Avant get another target at some point to make up for that. He had a good downfield block to spring McCoy earlier.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^
8-10 years ago vick scores on that play
September 9th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^
Hard nosed, good hands, lots of locker room respect. That being said most think he is getting hear the end of his career given that he has lost whatever speed he had.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
Anyone know why Brandon Graham isn't playing for Philly today? I know he's been a bit of a disappointment, but he had a decent 2012 and you'd think he'd be out there.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:21 PM ^
which is a tough fit for BG. Most fans think he was Philly's best pass rusher last year and hope he can adjust to the new system. Otherwise I think he will be part of a "fit" trade and have a lot of success wherever he goes.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:18 PM ^
I've mostly been working, but the commentary on this game is the definition of NFLAIDS in the few plays I have heard it. Gruden is terrified, confused, and irrationally skeptical all at the same time of any offense that isn't pro-style. He says "zone read" and "read option" like they are uncurable diseases.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:23 PM ^
The Eagles offense will last for about 2-3 games. The Redskins have already figured it out.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:40 PM ^
No you're probably right. Philly wanted to have 5 second half first downs.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:43 PM ^
by Chip Kelly was very vanilla. Pretty much consist of inside and outside zone plays with some read option sprinkled in. No variation of passing plays that would leverage from zone read PA plays at all in the 2nd half. Vick threw the ball two times in the 2nd half.
September 9th, 2013 at 11:21 PM ^
Huh? Vick had more than 2 second half throws.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^
In the long run, once Kelly gets a better QB fit for this offense (making quick reads, etc) I think they will be tough to stop.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:38 PM ^
Who would be a better fit?
September 9th, 2013 at 10:43 PM ^
September 9th, 2013 at 10:52 PM ^
as would pretty much any QB that is good to great in terms of mobility but (more importantly) makes good quick reads AND does not put his body into harms way.
September 9th, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
Marcus Mariota. He can throw and run. Vick has strong arm but accuracy is spotty. Decision making isn't great and doesn't always make quick decisions. He really doesn't fit what Chip Kelly wants out of a QB.
September 10th, 2013 at 12:23 AM ^
Plus he's old and beat up. I don't know how much longer his body can hold up.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^
I love the idea that all these new fangled offenses just need to be "figured out," then they'll jump stop working altogether.
I have no idea how Kelly's tenure in the NFL will pan out. There are amazing college coaches that bomb in the pros (e.g., Saban) and there are coaches that do great (e.g., Harbaugh). But somehow I don't think Kelly's offense will get "figured out" and shut down in a couple of games.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:41 PM ^
Ok. I do.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:43 PM ^
Why do they continue to thrive at the college level? Why are there NFL teams that continue to find success doing similar things?
I don't see a whole lot of evidence in recent years to support the idea that modern offenses are all smoke and mirrors that can easily outsmarted and stopped.
September 9th, 2013 at 10:50 PM ^
Because college defenses simply are not athletic enough to stop it. College DC's can figure it out all they want, but unless you've got the personnel, it won't matter. That's really not a problem in the NFL.
I'm not suggesting that people will stop the Eagles cold, but I really doubt they will be putting up 26 first half points against anyone. Washington made a pretty simply adjustment coming out of halftime. They moved their safeties up about 7 yards and played a lot more press coverage. Intent on stopping the hitches and screens, they basically dared Vick to throw downfield, and he couldn't do it. He missed a ton of intermediate throws in the 2nd half.
September 9th, 2013 at 11:09 PM ^
They played vanilla offense at 2nd half. Doesn't mean anything. The Redskins were selling to stop against the run while the Eagles are content to burn the clock with the running game.
September 9th, 2013 at 11:22 PM ^
Yeah, I know, but I hate Chip Kelly, so I'm trying to make it look like he'll fail. Please just go with it.