OT: Fine and his wife abused Davis
This is some sick stuff, but Fine's wife admitted to knowing about Bernie's abuse of Davis and she also basically apologized for abusing Davis herself.
November 27th, 2011 at 11:55 AM ^
why the focus wasn't on her, too. Pretty damning. Boeheim needs to walk that thing back quite a long way, doesn't he? When stuff like this is alleged, institutions and people in power need to resist the move to automatically deny it. And people need to avoid jumping to conclusions--saw so many people insisting that the kid was a liar. . .
November 27th, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^
Boeheim staked his career on Fines innocence and many of us, including myself, doubted this kids story. Unlike Penn State though, Boeheim doesn't appear to have had any knowledge of this.
November 27th, 2011 at 12:15 PM ^
Especially since this story came after the Penn State incident, how could people think that this kid was lying? I mean, it is incredibly hard for sexual abuse victim to speak up since they are trying to comprehend what happened and feel embarassed for it in even happening.
November 27th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
There's that whole thing about four witnesses provided by Davis that supposedly refuted everything he said. If Syracuse did their full investigation, talked to witnesses that the victim himself said would know everything, and those witnesses refuted his claims instead of supporting them - if all that happened, it's pretty good reason to believe that Syracuse at least did their proper due diligence on this. In this case there's no grand jury report (yet) with a huge-ass list of findings, just an accusation that has (supposedly) been refuted.
November 27th, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^
...people do, sometimes, make false accusations.
It seems to me the rational thing was to not draw any immediate conclusions at all, but what do I know....
November 27th, 2011 at 12:05 PM ^
Boeheim needs to fire Fine now, otherwise he may go down with him
November 27th, 2011 at 12:25 PM ^
asshat than he already is. This story is another example of how coaches who have become "bigger" than the institutions they are employed by get away with orchestrating things to protect the image of themselves or their program.
November 27th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^
exactly did boeheim cover this up? he had no knowledge of the allegations, and was generally shocked by them. If a life long friend, who worked with you day in and day out, was accused by some kid of molesting them and then said child apparently lied about you seeing them together, wouldn't you be furious?
Secondly, while I dont doubt Bernie Fine is guilty, it is highly suspicious that his wife apparnetly knew but did nothing while she had sexual relations with this kid. Secondly, the third accuser has been convicted of molesting a 14 year old boy in Maine and his father says he is lying about everything. This whole case is bizarro personified.
November 27th, 2011 at 2:03 PM ^
Boeheim should not have attacked potential abuse victims via the media. If Fine is guilty, Boeheim should be severely disciplined. It's so hard for these kids to come forward, especially when "friends" of the potential predator slam them in public. Boeheim should have waited for the process to play out, instead of becoming the judge and jury himself. Now he's claming up with this newest info coming to light. Too late, Jim.
November 27th, 2011 at 2:41 PM ^
...but he shouldn't have called the accuser a liar. He could have said "I believe those allegations were investigated when they first came to light five years ago so I'll be surprised if there's anything to them." Or he could have kept his mouth shut. But to assert as an absolute, known fact that the allegations were false when he couldn't possibly know, that's a problem.
November 27th, 2011 at 12:39 PM ^
Hope they burn in hell.
November 27th, 2011 at 1:13 PM ^
I don't think the fact that ESPN had this tape in 2003 and sat on it for this long does not bode well for them after all the blustering during Sandusky affair...