OT: Deion Sanders is the Man

Submitted by 1408 on October 17th, 2022 at 9:04 PM

Amazing 60 mins piece.  He is doing really impressive things at JSU.  He reminds me a little bit of Harbaugh - same enthusiasm, same approach, same drive. 

Sanders is also not hiding the fact that he will likely leave for the P5 (but not the NFL, interestingly enough):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1YfvAw5Ow

MGlobules

October 18th, 2022 at 5:36 AM ^

You're talking out of your tuchuses. This is a grown man that's put in the work to create a powerhouse program. This guy worked his butt off his entire life, and you're lecturing about him like he's a--let's be blunt--Black man in need of your middle-class BS wisdom. Without a shred to offer. Get off the high horse. Or at least learn enough about what he HAS accomplished at JSU to avoid such patronizing piffle. 

BlueMk1690

October 18th, 2022 at 12:50 PM ^

Lecturing? I say that's my question mark with him. Maybe if I sat down with him and talked to him for 2 hours I'd leave and be totally impressed with the guy as a coach. I am entirely open to that possibility, but I don't know him, never will, so all I have to go by is his public persona developed over decades as an athlete and then TV personality.

And I think it would be very unnatural not to have open questions at this point. You act like you'd be happy to throw him the keys to Michigan's program tomorrow. Like you would do the same for any guy with the same success (one great season on the back of athletes much better than the competition he faced), who's not also a very famous former NFL (and MLB) player and even bigger brand thanks to his very successful efforts of creating such a brand for himself.

 

TESOE

October 18th, 2022 at 7:06 AM ^

I can't talk about Deion without talking about oppression and privilege. CFB is a tool of both. If Deion works George Floyd into a P5 job I won't watch.

I was team Deion until watching the Alabama State coach rip him a new one. HBCUs are resurrgent not because stars are coming back to them, they are coming back because people are shaking off very old chains.

Deion is off message. He needs to take off the golden chains before he sells out for more.

I respect the HBCU movement, but it has made me look at CFB and everything else in a new light. That light isn't coming from Deion or CFB.

ShadowStorm33

October 18th, 2022 at 10:34 AM ^

I think the tough question re Deion is how good of a coach he really is. I.e. how much of JSU's success is due to his coaching, and how much is due to simply overwhelming his opposition with superior talent?

Now don't get me wrong, recruiting is VERY important, and you'd have to think he'd be one of if not the best recruiter in the country. But recruiting is a necessary but not sufficient kind of thing. Plenty of teams over the last 5-10 years have underperformed despite very talented rosters, some massively so (Texas, USC, A&M, LSU, Georgia, FSU, Miami, Florida, Auburn, PSU, us to an extent, etc. are just a few examples).

It's one thing to do it at lower levels, but in the P5, you need both the talent and the coaching to make it to the top. And there just isn't enough data yet to know if he has the coaching chops.

CaliforniaNobody

October 19th, 2022 at 12:31 AM ^

CSB- Deion threw a fit in the media maybe a decade back when someone referenced his tackling issues, not even in a particularly pointed way. So I tweeted at him that he's a HOFer and he needs to accept that his one weakness is going to be brought up sometimes, and was blocked. So I'm blocked by a relevant college football coach which is kind of cool.

 

I was also blocked by Cole Beasley for calling out his whining over his non-catch against us. In retrospect, this kept me from being exposed to his immense idiocy in recent years.