OT- "In contract amendment, Nebraska agreed to not fire Scott Frost for possible NCAA violations"
An article from USA Today. Here's a snippet from the article:
"Confirmed by the university in August 2021, the investigation would conclude this past May and assess that Nebraska had committed a Level II violation for allowing a former special teams analyst to provide on-field assistance during practice and games. NCAA rules prohibit analysts from this sort of hands-on instruction. Prior to the amendment, Frost's contract included language that could have given the university grounds to terminate him for cause based on the severity of the rules violation if it so chose."
October 21st, 2022 at 1:38 PM ^
You done fucked up, Nebraska.
why would any team make it harder on themselves to fire a shitty coach if they wanted to?
October 21st, 2022 at 1:55 PM ^
To get the anointed savior to go to Lincoln in the first place?
October 21st, 2022 at 3:08 PM ^
But the university signed this amendment in 2021, long after they knew that Scott Frost sucks as a head coach.
According to the amendment, which was signed by Nebraska athletics director Trev Alberts on Nov. 11, 2021, the university said Frost would not be dismissed "based on any charges or findings against you or by you" at the conclusion of the investigation.
October 21st, 2022 at 8:22 PM ^
Ask sparty
October 21st, 2022 at 1:39 PM ^
Sure seems like there's literally nothing a college could do to not get paid the full value of their contract. Great gig if you can get it. Glad we can finance it as fans.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:10 PM ^
I gotta say, major college FB coach is not high on my list of dream jobs. Insane hours, constant stress, need to recruit 24/7, requirement to constantly move yourself and your family (who you pretty much never get to see anyway because you're always working), almost no choice of where you live, you're almost certain to get fired sooner or later, and half of the world blames you for every mistake made by 18-22 year-olds.
I'll pass.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^
Jimmy manages to keep knocking up his wife, despite the long hours. Of course, rumor is that he doesn't sleep, he only waits.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
you're almost certain to get fired sooner or later
So fire me. Pay me a large buyout to not coach at your school. Woe is me.
October 21st, 2022 at 6:03 PM ^
To be fair, you've probably worked like hell for 2 decades to get to the point where you're getting a large buyout to not coach. (Scott Frost rose quickly and did it in 15 years, Harbaugh did it in 13 if you don't count the years working for his dad.) And most of the people working that hard for that long are still going to get nowhere close to a gig that pays the obscene amounts that power 5 head coaches get.
So if you could magically plop me in a power 5 gig, I'd probably be willing to embarrass myself and my team and happily get fired for doing so. But if I worked like hell for my whole adult life to get there and just couldn't hack it, a la Brady Hoke, there's no doubt it would be really tough emotionally. I'd probably cry a lot while I swam through my pool filled with money.
October 21st, 2022 at 7:10 PM ^
Or you hit the lotto like Mel Tucker...career .500 coach and cliche machine that gets a 10yr, $95mm guaranteed contract because a school and it's fanbase is so obsessed with beating its rival, that 2 wins (one in a shortened Covid year) over said rival leads you to generational wealth.
October 21st, 2022 at 8:39 PM ^
Not counting his time as a GA at MSU, it took Mel over 20 years to get his big extension paycheck at MSU. He didn't hit the lotto. He may be getting overpaid, but he earned that bag.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:55 PM ^
i was nodding my head as I was reading your comments, LJ...it really does seem like an awful, awful profession.
October 21st, 2022 at 4:42 PM ^
But you'd need one big job and if you get fired before the contract is up you'd never need to work any sort of stressful job ever again.
October 21st, 2022 at 5:10 PM ^
The job attracts a certain type of hyper-competitive, high-functioning lunatic who is driven by an obsession with winning, not by money. It's mostly agents who are behind the explosion in coaches' salaries and buyouts, not the coaches themselves.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^
Not sure how much we pay for vs others with much more money. Rumor has it that most of Mr Tucker's agreement with an intrastate university is funded by two very large donors. The institution in question will not agree to release the contract for public scrutiny.
October 21st, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^
His Mom has a lot of pull.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:38 PM ^
to be fair, she was the paid analyst.
October 21st, 2022 at 1:43 PM ^
Slow day when Frost and Kelly are the first two message board posts. I hate bye week.
October 21st, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^
A meL Tucker thread would complete the trifecta…
October 21st, 2022 at 1:55 PM ^
Staee has been interestingly quiet since their sic burn of turning a M into a W.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^
Not to mention their president resigning, as Staee makes their academics (sic) as screwed up as their athletics (sick).
October 21st, 2022 at 4:13 PM ^
Frames Janklin would ubercomplete the quadfecta...
October 21st, 2022 at 1:47 PM ^
Nebraska remains hopelessly behind the times. It should know that the new hotness is to investigate yourself so you always a reason to fire your coach for cause.*
(After the 2020 season, Tennessee appeared to conduct an internal investigation for the sole purpose of finding NCAA violations that would justify firing then-coach Jeremy Pruitt for cause. I believe a number of other programs have since attempted this maneuver.)
October 21st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^
Funny thing is, this is the way it's supposed to work. Schools are supposed to scrutinize themselves with NCAA stepping in only when needed or called upon based on public reporting or institutional complaints. Frost apparently knew he was on a short leash. And the university did what was necessary based on the record of performance and and achievement.
October 21st, 2022 at 3:18 PM ^
It should work that way, but lots of schools have created a perverse trap. They expect coaches to rack up wins and turn a blind eye to (or even encourage) NCAA violations to that end. But if those victories don't come, they turn around and condemn their coaches for doing the very things they encouraged (or even facilitated).
October 21st, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^
And TAMU begins an internal investigation in 3, 2, 1...
October 21st, 2022 at 1:49 PM ^
There should be an automatic penalty instituted by the NCAA if you attempt to crawl out from under your coach's contract "for cause" because you believe they violated NCAA rules while they were working for you.
October 21st, 2022 at 1:49 PM ^
Somebody get Rainer Sabin on the horn, RIGHT NOW!!!!
October 21st, 2022 at 2:18 PM ^
If you're going to do this, negotiate a full indemnity against at least minor criminal offenses too, just to be on the safe side in case you were planning a scandal of considerable scope.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
Most programs have analysts providing on field title lags it’s one of those things. Michigan had the DL analyst who went with Macdonald to Baltimore. Using that as grounds to fire a head coach is a red herring. Just man up and be like you weren’t good.
October 21st, 2022 at 2:58 PM ^
So, Nebraska agreed to pay Frost an additional - $ 7.5M for running their program into the ground - and, having committee NCAA infractions.
A great job if you can get it.
October 22nd, 2022 at 6:42 AM ^
I'd be willing to do that to Nebraska for a slightly smaller fee. If that's OK with his Mom? Did I just outhit him?
October 21st, 2022 at 3:14 PM ^
Yeah, a level II violation isn't particularly egregious, or at least doesn't strike me as something you'd fire a guy over especially if it's something like this violation of letting an analyst some time on the field.
This feels a bit like someone wanting to unearth nefarious at Nebraska when it is pretty clear it didn't work out for a variety of Frost and Frost-adjacent reasons and that's about it.
October 21st, 2022 at 5:34 PM ^
I dunno about any of this, but I will never understand why they didn't wait 3 weeks to fire him and save some money. Why not? You got blown out by OU anyway. Was it worth the win over Indiana???
October 21st, 2022 at 6:45 PM ^
I agree. Nebraska and I will add Wisconsin dismissals are rather odd to me. Nebraska for timing and Wisconsin for not being able to work with a winning coach.
October 21st, 2022 at 6:10 PM ^
I guess his Mother negotiated that for him that or his Team was just TOUGHER than the Admin
October 21st, 2022 at 6:41 PM ^
They just fired him because he wasn't good at coaching.
October 21st, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
.....yet their special teams last year were some of the worst in the conference 🤔
October 21st, 2022 at 7:40 PM ^
a former special teams analyst to provide on-field assistance during practice and games
WHO?! Need to know so we can keep this guy the hell away from Michigan!