OT: Columbus Blue Jackets goaltender Matiss Kivlenieks dies from fireworks accident in Novi, Mi
Terribly sad, but not all that surprising with how many deaths and serious injuries fireworks cause every year.
10.1.1You can feel free to change the headline to "slips and falls, hits head"
He was fleeing a fireworks malfunction and slipped, fell, and hit his head.
EDIT: Apparently, authorities are now updating this story to say he died from a firework striking him in the chest, not from the slip and fall as was originally reported.
oh, so its a covid-19 related death? got it.
Shut up, weirdo.
must be hard living in a fishbowl.
Was he from the area? If not seems odd someone who plays for Columbus would be in Novi. Maybe played minors here.
A story I read said he was possibly in town to see Manny Legace, who had coached him in the past and lives in Novi.
He played in a few different places around the midwest. Was in Kalamazoo at one point.
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What is the significance of 10.1.1 in the OP and this comment?
There is no significance. It is something the site puts at the end of some member's comments. It's not something anyone should worry about, just a little odd. One of those glitches that have been around since the update.
Just know that the member did not put those numbers there.
Thats what they WANT you to think
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I’m laughing because I know what a Faraday cage is… only place this is mentioned is in wireless discussions and MGoBlog! ?
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You ever been to Columbus?
I'd live in Novi too.
Actually, I'd pick Columbus and I am a UM alumnus. Columbus is a great city in spite of the group think around these parts.
No, you're wrong!!!
And are exposed as a buckeye troll by your misspelling Michigan!
Nice try tho!
Had you taken English 125, you'd know. . .
It's "an alumnus", and Michigan not Michighen. Is UM a nickname for your double-wide?
No one. NO ONE in Michigan ever uses the phrase "around these parts." Why don't you run back up the holler? I think your mamaw might have supper ready.
Get off my lawn. Here in beautiful northern MI we do use "around these parts".
I am from Manceltucky in Antrim County and can attest to this. Also i think it’s now called Methalona (around those parts).
It's actually MeeMaw - especially in "Northern Michighen"
Autopsy revealed he died from blunt force trauma to the chest. Terribly sad.
First, this is so very sad- I hope his family can find some peace.
Second, is it about time to ban the sale of fireworks? Not only are they really stupid and not impressive at all (that's a minor point), but they are INCREDIBLY dangerous. You are putting combustible items in people's hands who are potentially intoxicated. Sometimes the wicks go off before people can get away, they do something they aren't supposed to do, etc...
And maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think a lot of people are making a living selling fireworks- there's literally like a 2-week window in June/July where you see these vendors and that's about it.
I think its time to get these things out of people's hands.
No. That is all.
They’ll ban fireworks around the same time they ban unqualified people from driving full-size U-Hauls.
That's an odd comparison.
Don't you have to have a driver's license, establishing that you can drive an automobile?
Do U-Hauls suddenly blow up in people's hands or combust randomly? Is there a huge rash of U-Haul accidents that I don't know about?
This data is a bit old but apparently people don't get into accidents much more often with UHaul trucks and trailers than your normal driver with his/her car. And that makes sense - people usually aren't drunk or speeding when driving a U-Haul, as they're usually driving their belongings and family with them.
By comparison, there has been an uptick in injuries and deaths related to fireworks, which is pretty crazy since we're talking about 2-3 weeks max that most people use them. And yeah, usually people are at least buzzed and trying to blow stuff up at nighttime, a recipe for bad times.
They need to be banned. Dangerous for people, terrible for wildlife, pets, and some people with PTSD, namely veterans.
Not to mention they’re fucking dumb.
Yep, besides the 15,000-16,000 injuries per year that could be prevented by these things, there are so many other factors that you mentioned which go unreported.
Wonder how many forest fires were started by fireworks this year.
I live near a wildfire-prone area. Fireworks are a disaster here yet idiots keep setting them off because freedom Amurka.
But but but they go boomy and they're colorful! /s
No.
I agree there are dangers associated with fireworks, but it should not be up to the government.
The responsibility to know what you are doing and handle fireworks safely falls on the consumer.
If you are not a fan of fireworks or are fearful about the potential outcome, you do not have to purchase them.
Fireworks have an affect on more than just those who purchase and use them.
My argument would be that you don’t just ban something because it might cause harm if mishandled.
I would support the requirement to get a permit, and getting that permit requires you to take a safety course of some kind, even if it’s just a 1-hour PowerPoint with a test at the end. That’s enough of a deterrent for most idiots out there.
I also have no problem with banning them from being set off within X feet (idk, say 200) of a residence or business, and if too dry (I know places like colorado and California do this regularly). I just don’t think banning them is the answer. Some people think they’re stupid, but many get great enjoyment out of them.
This is a reasonable take. Regulate them like any other potentially dangerous activity (driving a car, taking certain drugs, etc).
10.1.1Actually, here I agree with you. In drought conditions fireworks are a huge mistake and should not be used.
The problem is that fireworks in of themselves are not safe.
You could train people for thousands of hours on how to safely handle fireworks and what the rules are- it's not going to ensure them being manufactured properly.
Again, I agree. There is more to say here but this is a sports blog and I am way off topic so good night Leo.
Also, get consent from anyone living within some set proximity of where people are setting them off. A lot of the people who get great enjoyment out of fireworks do so at the expense of their neighbors ability to enjoy the evening without random explosions going off next door. Like many things, they an be enjoyable if used socially but can also be tremendously anti-social.
I read all of the takes and I appreciate your post the most. Offers a rationale approach towards a solution to a current issue at hand while attempting to balance competing interests/rights. It might not directly address the issue of children injuries/deaths or Veterans with PTSD but it would be a step in the right direction.
PS: as mentioned above, I would extend regulation requirements towards the manufactures in addition to the users.
Possible considerations:
Permits
Age of participant
Time of day, which days
Location including fire risks conditions
Ground vs. Air Fire works
Minor oversite, distance (child endangerment violation)
Register of those with documented PTSD, ie. no permits within a certain distance.
Manufacture oversight for safety and environmental impact.
People can easily avoid any fireworks danger. They're not going to break into your home and they're not going to give you a deadly disease at the grocery store. And it's only a few nights out of the year.
People can easily avoid any fireworks danger.
And yet they don't.
Cause of thousands of injuries, some deaths, inducing stressors on pets, PTSD, and contributing to wildfires.
And the benefit of fireworks are... what exactly? 30 seconds of brief enjoyment?
There's no value to them. The potential harm FAR outweighs any brief benefits.
Depends on how many you buy. My neighbor and I had a couple hours worth of fun both Sat and Sun night so ….
Sort of sounds like unprotected sex with a 1 night stand.
Well you're simply wrong - people cannot "easily" avoid the noise & inherent dangers of mishandled fireworks.
Actually, I'd go so far as to say that's a pretty stupid thing to say!
I avoid all dangers by sitting on the couch, actually. And we're not cancelling fireworks over *noise*. That's just dumb.
So do guns, but we don't ban those.