Hannibal.

August 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 PM ^

I wish that they would also lose a couple of offensive linemen, Terrelle Pryor, and then a couple of key guys on defense. Then they would find out what it's like to be us.

fatbastard

August 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 PM ^

correctly notes the deficiency in your sentence structure, it is also true that failing at OSU does, if fact, require an absence of intelligence that many scholars characterize as retarded. However, in Ohio, they simply call it below average. Ohio State students call it probation. The OSU AD doesn't call it anything, they just arrange to expel the "tutor" who was paid to take the test but flunked.

WolvinLA

August 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 PM ^

Although is completely anecdotal, I think it's also fairly telling. I had a friend my first 2 years at UM who was from Ohio. She was premed. She was really struggling with classes, getting a lot of really poor grades in important pre-reqs. I'm sure she was well below a 3.0, since a B was about the best grade she got. Her parents got sick of paying out of state tuition for her to get such poor grades, so they told her she needed to transfer to an in-state school or she had to pay her own way. She couldn't so she obliged. She picked OSU (it is, after all, the highest rated school in Ohio) and after retaking a lot of the classes she did so poorly in at Michigan, was still able to graduate on time. She never got less than an A at OSU and would always tell us how ridiculously easy her classes we in comparison. I know, I know, this is just one experience. But this one girl said the difference (at least in the chem and bio departments) was night and day compared to Ann Arbor.

WolvinLA

August 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 PM ^

Fair enough, but it's very hard to compare the tiny schools against major research institutions. I'm not saying that OSU is better than the Kenyons or Denisons of the world, just that they are in a different league. That said, her motivation to go back to Ohio was financial, and those liberal arts schools are about the same price as out-of-state UM, especially since scholarships are rarely given to transfers.

SigmaOlomouc

August 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 PM ^

Very true. Subtracting hyperbole and irrational fandom, I think most reasonable people would find your friend's conclusion (Michigan is hard, OSU not so much) applicable to most large state schools. Michigan is a very good school. OSU is a good to mediocre school, depending on the area of study. And I believe the plural of Kenyon is Kenyi.

mstier

August 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 PM ^

Case Western, while expensive, is quite the major Science/Medical research institution. The Cleveland Clinic is a hell of a place. That's probably you're best overall school in Ohio. Honestly though, I think some of the differences between schools are blown out of proportion. I started off at Tulane and transferred to Michigan. I'd almost argue that Tulane was more difficult. The classes were smaller, and the curves were much less generous (MCDB major FWIW). But I don't even think they're ranked in the top 50.

cargo

August 4th, 2009 at 3:33 PM ^

Question though, did she retake alot of the classes at a branch or the main campus? The branches are like high school compared to the main campus. I once compared the same class tests between the 2 and wow what a difference.

mejunglechop

August 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 PM ^

Orignially from a Bucknuts article. http://bucknuts.com/index.php/component/option,com_idoblog/id,7455/task… "According to our sources, wide receiver Ray Small is also not with the team for the time being and his status is very much up in the air for the 2009 season. There is a chance that Rose and Small could return to the team by the USC game on Sept. 12, but that seems like a long-shot at best at this point. Rose and Small are not even permitted to train with the team at the current time and their scholarship aid has been pulled." More likely that they would have their scholarships revoked for some type of malfeasance than for simply performing poorly.

IM4UMich

August 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 PM ^

Disappointing updates: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/bigten/0-3-760/Updates-on-Ohio-State-s-Berry… "There appears to be good news for heralded Buckeyes running back recruit Jaamal Berry, who will have his drug-possession charges dropped as long as he completes a six-month diversion program. Berry was arrested for felony marijuana possession June 11 in Miami but had the charge later reduced to a misdemeanor...." We knew. Relevant Small information, though: "I also checked in with Ohio State about wide receiver/punt returner Ray Small, whose status for training camp and the start of the season is up in the air. Team spokeswoman Shelly Poe wrote in an e-mail that Small's status has not changed to date and that as of right now, the senior is expected to report with the rest of the team Sunday for camp."