Communist Football

December 16th, 2021 at 3:56 PM ^

Here's a better link (WolverinesWire). The quote:

Consistency is the most important thing in building a big-time college football program, in my opinion. Now, I’ve never been at some of these schools where as people say you wake up on third base and you think you hit a triple. I’ve never been there, so I don’t know what it’s like to coach at a school like that. Coach Knowles will know.

core42

December 16th, 2021 at 4:53 PM ^

Weirdly this is a semi common thing in European soccer when someone leaks to the media that X club is interested in Y player.  They do this because they "know" someone on each side & hope that the media pressure gets the club to look at the player more closely then this person acts as an intermediary looking for a "finder's fee" or something like that 

jg2112

December 16th, 2021 at 5:38 PM ^

Yep. Pogba's agent is notorious for doing this nonsense ("sources indicate Pogba is unsure of the Man U project"). After all, he doesn't get paid without transferring his players from team to team.

He did it for two years with Donnarumma as well, and he's doing it now with Haaland.

dmoo4u

December 16th, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^

Can I make a motion for no one to watch the video on that link. After a 30 second commercial, the 1 minute video began playing - only to be interrupted every 15 seconds with another 5 second commercial. Completely unwatchable and ridiculous. GET OFF MY LAWN! 

Robbie Moore

December 16th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^

Mike Gundy is a MAN. He's 40 (or probably 50 now). He has, or used to have, a world class mullet. He was not born on third base. He trolls Ohio State.

Love the man. My guess is the Buckeyes could care less about this "meaningless" bowl coached by a man who will be in Chicago as soon as the NFL season is over. The Cowboys are gonna kick Buckeye ass.

wolve1972

December 16th, 2021 at 4:13 PM ^

Not quite sure what Gundy expected. Jim Knowles one of the hot coordinators on the market this offseason and was pursued by many programs - just not Ohio State.  And here's the kicker :  Knowles made $800,000 last year with Okie State and will be making $1.9 million next with the other OSU.  Would any of us turn down that kind of raise / money ?

Booted Blue in PA

December 16th, 2021 at 4:25 PM ^

are the bears really that stupid?   i mean, I could see the lions hiring day, who took over a top 5 team and produced a couple good seasons...   If he has the chance, he better jump, cuz my guess is next year they'll be a 3 loss team and he's fresh out of coordinators to replace, so it'll be him the suckeye mob will be after.

LeCheezus

December 16th, 2021 at 4:36 PM ^

I despise OSU, but do you really see anyone else in the B1G potentially beating them next year besides Michigan?  Maybe if they open with an L to Notre Dame they could finish with 2 losses, but I doubt they will have 3.  The Game this year was their first B1G loss since Purdue in 2018.  We kicked their face in this year, but there is still a ton of talent on that team.

wolve1972

December 16th, 2021 at 5:10 PM ^

If you read some of the OSU sites, even at the beginning of the 2021 season, their 2018 and 2019 classes have not turned out the mega stars for OSU like in past years which is why they were forced to play so many from their stacked 2020 and 2021 classes. I've read that 14 of their 2-deep on defense - in 2021 - were from their 2020 and 2021 classes.  Take a look at their 94.04 rating for their 2022 class. My point is the people thinking that OSU will be lacking talent in 2022 are way off base. That team will be stacked with great young talent.

Now, can we beat them ? Of course, but IMO, they'll have a whole year to simmer and will be ready IN COLUMBUS next year. We'll need to put the pedal to the metal

WhetFaarts

December 19th, 2021 at 10:28 AM ^

Agree with your take.  OSUs roster was extremely young and got even younger on the field as the year went on since Day’s regime seemed to butt heads with some of the elders in Urban’s last classes - resulting in some mid-season transfers.  Dont think they intended to play a number of the guys that were thrown in this season.  They are talented but can Day develop them and get them to play tough?  This coming season will be huge for Day to either prove he’s keeping the Death Star operational or if he becomes Larry Coker pt 2 Electric Boogaloo.

Outside of M and possibly a PSU or Wisco, they can still simply out talent most of the B1G regardless of scheme.

Jordan2323

December 16th, 2021 at 4:36 PM ^

Day is gone after next year either way. He has no ties to the university and isn’t gonna deal with the pressure that program puts on you. If he beats Michigan next year he will have a winning record against them and go out on top and if he loses to Michigan his ass is gone too. Too many NFL teams will be calling at that time

wolve1972

December 16th, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^

I have never considered Day a long term coach for OSU. I agree with you about his future being in the NFL. it sounds like he's not too happy - along with many other CF coaches - about all of the NIL transactions, especially in this current recruiting cycle (Texas, Texas A&M, and of course the SEC). Sounds like it could drive him back to the NFL.  Enter Fickell

azee2890

December 16th, 2021 at 5:34 PM ^

If I were Day (assuming he has NFL aspirations), I would definitely jump at the first opportunity someone gives me. I really think Day will follow the same trajectory as Don Brown. Both came in doing one thing extremely well and it dominated for the first few years. Other coaches and coordinators eventually find the weaknesses in their system. 

For Don Brown, it was using his aggressiveness against him. For Day, it's taking away the deep passing game (see Alabama and Michigan games). We already saw the peak of a Day led team with Fields, Dobbins, Olave/Wilson, Young, Wade, and Okudah in 2019. That was a borderline NFL team and they got ousted in the first round against Clemson. They don't have a Fields level QB on roster anymore (with Ewers gone), the early returns for their WRs is good but probably not Olave/Wilson good, and their DB room is really unimpressive. The only position groups that might improve from that 2019 team is DL and RB, although both Dobbins and Young were heisman candidates so not sure you can replicate that. 

Sure, he may adapt, unlike his former co-worker. But based on what i've observed from him so far, he seems arrogant and unwilling to give up control (I believe he had insisted on running a specific defensive scheme rather than let the defensive coaches choose a scheme). Adaptability is probably the single most important trait for a college football head coach. Part of the reason why I think Saban is so successful (other than recruiting) is that he has his choice of the best available coordinators every year. His coordinators cycle through the program so often that nobody has the ability to "figure them out" schematically. It will be interesting to see where Ryan Day goes from here, now that there is a blueprint for stopping his current scheme. 

FrankTigers2

December 17th, 2021 at 7:12 AM ^

Both came in doing one thing extremely well and it dominated for the first few years. Other coaches and coordinators eventually find the weaknesses in their system. 

 

they lost one conference game in the last three years.  not sure that these other coaches and coordinators found a kink in the armor...and if there was one, Knowles will probably fix it.

 

azee2890

December 17th, 2021 at 1:57 PM ^

OSU's defense has been a weak link for a while. We'll see if Day finally gives the keys of the defense over to his DC (I think he has to). 

The kink that could have been exposed was regarding slowing down their offense. Bama, Oregon, and Michigan, the three teams that have beat them recently and convincingly, had very similar defensive game plans. Play safeties deep to take away the deep shots, give them the underneath stuff and be disciplined in tackling and containment. Make them march down the field and force them to kick a field goal with a shortened field. Day's offense relies on big play momentum. They like to pile points on you as fast as possible (see MSU). Put a speed limit on that Ferrari and they aren't dusting people anymore. 

Now, the key to this type of game plan is getting pressure on the QB while allowing your LBs and DBs to stay in coverage. Having Ojabo and Hutchinson was key to that success. That's a luxury most college teams don't have (PSU played their offense well, it was their offense that ultimately failed them). 

If we had the same defensive game plan in 2018 and 2019 as we did in 2021, those games would have likely been tightly contested games. Day had the perfect game plan to annihilate our defense in 2018 and 2019 because he knew exactly what Don Brown wanted to run and he knew how to exploit it. Brown tried to adapt and 2020 was the result... 

I said last year after the Alabama game that this would be the year to strike against OSU. They had a lot of roster turnover, the Meyer recruits are almost all gone, and Bama just showed the world how to defend them. Oregon and Michigan were obviously paying attention. I think there is now a blueprint to slowing down Ryan Day's offense as it is currently constructed. That doesn't mean he won't adapt successfully (it will be a true test of his offensive genius reputation), next year should be pretty illuminating. 

Booted Blue in PA

December 17th, 2021 at 10:06 AM ^

IMO day is in over his head.  his team had a deer in the headlights look in The Game.... that didn't happen with tressel or meyer teams.   they stuggled against minn, psu & nebraska this year, they aren't the same team going forward under day, that they have been for the past 20 years under tressel and meyer.... is what I'm contending.