Notre Dame Investigation on kids death

Submitted by switch26 on

Just saw on PTI they mentioned the school is under investigation for the death of that kid. 

 

Apparently if it comes out that someone had told them to get the kid off that tower, and Kelly or whoever said it was ok because he was filming practice, then everyone is getting canned?

 

Also mentioned 3 kids have no de-committed from ND just recently

 

Any thoughts on this?  Anyone heard any more details about this

switch26

November 4th, 2010 at 10:19 PM ^

Obviously no one with any balls...  Seriously, so far the kid himself is the only one who tweeted he feared for his life, and said all that other stuff..

 

I wouldn't give a shit if it meant my job, i would never let a friend or someone i worked with do that..  It totally blows my mind how stupid ND was about this.

stillMichigan

November 4th, 2010 at 10:41 PM ^

Wow. And I thought it's been tough being a fan of Michigan football. I'm to the point of feeling bad for those supporters of the Irish.  This horrible event has to be like a nightmare, what with the death and on top of that the further ramifications on the football program. We are going thru a walk in the park over here.  My heart goes out to them all, just a sad deal. 

mgobleu

November 4th, 2010 at 11:08 PM ^

I guess I can't imagine that this was much of a "workplace" type environment for this kid. He probably didn't even consider it a job. My gut feeling about what happened is that the kid was probably a lifelong fan, especially being a student. He was probably insanely pumped just to be around the program, let alone to be a part of it, whatever capacity he was involved. In which case, I doubt he'd be real quick to tell the coaches, "No, I'm too afraid to be up here in the wind to tape your practice.", even though they probably wouldn't have hesitated to say, sure, come on down and we'll do something different. And while I don't believe that it was only a "sudden gust" that blew the lift over, but the prolonged winds of a large storm system, predicted by meteorologists days in advance, there's a good chance that the student, although scared and nervous, didn't realize he was in actual danger until it was too late.

In the article I read about the accident, it was said that noone knew who, if anyone "allowed" the student up on the lift; so maybe it was more his call than anyone else's. Either way, we don't know yet. Maybe the coaches should have noticed and ordered him down, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was largely his own choice to be up there, and I doubt any negligent homicide charges would stick. Assigning blame and determining responsibilities might be nearly impossible.

Anyway, I'm not an expert on ND's program, but I have a cousin in UM's kinesiology school who works with the football team on the sidelines. He's with the team a few days a week,  many, if not most practices, and almost every game, including traveling with the team for the ND and PSU games. Most of the players know him by name. Yet, besides passing by each other in Schembechler Hall and on the side of the field, he and RR, (and pretty much all of the other coaches, for that matter,) have never really communicated. To the coaches, he is one of countless faces he sees daily that are "involved" in some capacity in the program, but is no higher on their radar than the cleaning crew of the Apple corporate offices are on Steve Jobs'. Sure, Brian Kelly is the head of he football program, but he is not directly responsible for each and every individual.

Whatever happens, I feel terrible for the student and his family. What a tragic story. And even though I'm exponetially less of a fan of Kelly's since seeing him handle himself coaching at ND, I feel sorry for the coaches, too. I'm sure they're all pretty shaken by this. If they aren't they defintely should be.

ILL_Legel

November 4th, 2010 at 11:24 PM ^

I feel sorry for the family and friends and the people in his life. 

The people in charge at Notre Dame or any university are responsible to make sure people who come to work can leave in the same way they showed up to work.  I hope the safety policy isn't for the videographer to determine if the conditions are safe.  There need to be enforced standards for using aerial lifts not just leave it up to the young, inexperienced employee.

I wonder what training he had?  Those things are no joke.

ILL_Legel

November 4th, 2010 at 11:11 PM ^

I still can't believe this happened.  It seems like there has to be a risk manager or safety manager for Notre Dame sports operations.  If there is, there should be rules for operating any equipment to standard.

In the manufacturing world there are basic safety tools like a job safety analysis that spells out when equipment can and cannot be used.  How about a simple pre-task analysis checklist.....if wind gusts exceed blank then do not operate above blank feet?  The hazards for every job should be spelled out on a piece of paper.  There just is no excuse for this to happen.  I feel so bad for his family.