NFL Draft - All time WR class?

Submitted by AC1997 on December 4th, 2020 at 8:59 AM

The Ringer posted a story today (link) about how the 2020 WR draft for the NFL was one of the best ever with guys like Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Chase Claypool and many others already having success but the 2021 class may be just as good.  

I decided to read the story and find out what they say about Nico Collins, who opted out to prepare for the draft.  I will spare you the scrolling - Nico appears in the 24th paragraph of the story and is the SEVENTEENTH name they mention as an interesting WR prospect next year.  They mention him with two other big bodied WR (Auburn's Seth Williams and Wake's Sage Sarratt) as guys that could get more hype leading up to the draft. But the story focuses on the guys who may be day-1 picks with video and breakdown of their game.  There are 8 guys who get that treatment, which includes three other big ten receivers.  

I love Nico and I think he has a future in the NFL, but it seems like he'll probably have to follow a similar path as DPJ where he gets picked up in the middle rounds and works his way up into a rotation.  I don't fault anyone, including him, for opting out of this crazy season.  But it sure is frustrating to think about all of these other WR who have given it a shot this year and are ahead of him on this list and picture what our offense might have been with Nico being a safety net for our new QBs.

kejamder

December 4th, 2020 at 9:29 AM ^

Yeah, exactly. This reads like another "I don't fault him for quitting on the team, but he quit on the team and look what happened!" (I know that's not what you're saying, AC, but I'm just saying...)

In fact, the real story here is UM's inability to get the ball to elite WR talent these last few years. You really think Nico would have improved his draft position by playing this year?

Also, the top WR mentioned in the article also opted out of the season.

canzior

December 4th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^

Exactly this.  I liked DPJ and thought he wasn't utilized properly but he was a healthy scratch behind guys who weren't even that great in college.  He's struggled to get on the field with the Browns and it isn't because of injury. 

And while I would say yes, historically the Browns have no idea about anything related to football, in this instance I don't think it's an organization issue. 

Pumafb

December 4th, 2020 at 12:33 PM ^

DPS was a consensus 5 star. I think his lack of production at Michigan and his lack of playing time in year 1 of his NFL career are a bigger indictment of Michigan's lack of player development at that position. Michigan has been horrible at developing receivers for quite some time now. He has all the physical tools, but was raw as a route runner coming out of high school. I think he ran slants and go's at Cass. I imagine he also lacked understanding of concepts and how his routes fit in to the play call as a whole. That's very typical of high school receivers. The fact that none of this improved speaks to Michigan's obvious coaching deficiencies in both development and scheme. While we will never know for sure, I would bet that DPJ would have excelled at Alabama and been one of their typical early round draft picks had he went there based on his skill set compared to other Alabama receivers.

kurpit

December 4th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^

Do I think every decent UM player should be considered an elite NFL prospect? Hell no. Absolutely not.

Do I think that Michigan should be able to produce one quality offensive skill player in 5 years? Yes. Not an elite player, just a solid contributor. So far the best offensive players Michigan has put in the NFL are lucky if they were able to stay on an NFL roster for more than a few years.

BlueWolverine02

December 4th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^

Agree.  People here watch mostly Michigan, so they recognize the Michigan names while they don't recognize names from other schools.  This makes them think that Michigan  players are better than they really are.  Probably happens at ever school but I wish people here would be more aware of it.  Would make for better conversations if we could have more realistic takes.

East German Judge

December 4th, 2020 at 9:06 AM ^

Truly sad that this coaching staff helped make them decide that it was a better decision to leave early / not play vs. honing their skills for another year and improving their draft status. 

Mustachioed Ge…

December 4th, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^

I gotta disagree with you wholeheartedly here. There isn't anything sad about a coaching being honest with a player and supporting his decision to sit out a bullshit season. You think he could've honed his skills better playing with Milton and an untested Cade vs receiving private coaching and not having to focus on school at all?

WestQuad

December 4th, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^

I quit fantasy football this year after 22 years of having 1-3 teams.  My wife won't let me watch NFL after spending half the day Saturday watching Michigan.   I don't know who any of the players are anymore other than former Michigan recruits who chose Alabama.  Shakes fist at sky, damn players shift from team to team and only play for a few years.  I can't keep up.

Brian Griese

December 4th, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^

Nico would have made a very small impact on our offense. We don’t use tempo, try to burn clock by running the ball and either can’t successfully/won’t throw the ball down the field against teams worth a shit under Harbaugh. If I was Nico, why stick around for 5 receptions a game? Like DPJ, he’s only going to get drafted on physical abilities because Michigan does almost nothing with offensive skill players. 

SwitchbladeSam

December 4th, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^

Unless Nico is calling the plays, throwing to himself, blocking for himself, and splitting time between DT and CB on the other side, I'm not real sure it makes much of a difference.  Maybe we could beat Rutgers in regulation? Or manage an extra FG attempt(miss) or 2

 

bronxblue

December 4th, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^

I think Collins made the best decision for him, and I said it at the time and continue to hold to whatever decision players made during the pandemic was the right one for them.  The conference mis-managed their response so many ways that none of this surprised me.

I will say, that list is a bit all over the place.  I think Collins goes in the first 3 rounds, which was about as likely a position for him regardless of how he played this year.  Maybe he bumps up a bit if he had a great 5-6 games, but the NFL knows what it's looking for in receivers and I'm not sure college production is a great barometer for that.

Collins, though, is far more established and appealing compared to DPJ to the NFL.  Provided he doesn't just bomb at interviews and the combine, he should get a far higher NFL grade and position.

Champeen

December 4th, 2020 at 10:32 AM ^

Whatever class Jerry Rice was in.  Don't give a shit who else was drafted in the class - that was the best class ever.

Kind of like the JFK saying during the 1962 Nobel Price dinner at the white house.....

"this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

Gree4

December 4th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

Last year before the season I had a heated debate with a friend over DPJ, Black and Collins being better than Alabama's trio

 

At this point I believe my fanhood is a sickness

Michigan4Life

December 4th, 2020 at 12:09 PM ^

We might be in the golden age of WRs because WRs are so much better prepared to make an impact in the next level due to spread offense and NFL's adaptation to the spread offense. We already seen the trickle up effect from HS to college to NFL in terms of football scheme.

Pepper Brooks

December 4th, 2020 at 1:05 PM ^

This is not a surprise.  Here is a message I posted when Collins opened up on his reasons for opting out:

Pepper Brooks

October 21st, 2020 at 11:35 AM ^

Not sure if this is a good business decision.

Ja'Marr Chase, Jalen Waddle, Devonta Smith, Chris Olave, Rashod Bateman, Rondale Moore, Tamorrion Terry, Terrace Marshall Jr., Amon-Ra St. Brown, Seth Williams, Marques Stevenson, Tylan Wallace, Sage Surratt, and Dazz Newsome all moving up in mock drafts. That's 14 WRs listed in the first 3 rounds. Nico Collins no longer appears.

Jalen Mayfield, Kwity Paye, and Aidan Hutchinson all appear in the the first 3 rounds.

It seems Collins could really benefit from a quality season, no matter how abbreviated.

 

AC1997

December 4th, 2020 at 1:12 PM ^

Let me clarify my comments a little.  I'm not saying that Nico would have necessarily improved his stock on this team (hindsight 20/20) and given the systemic issues with the program it is hard to know how much he would have helped this team.  Obviously this is a bit of chicken-and-egg discussion though.  

We cay say "good for all these guys staying away, this program is trash" and we can also say "if we hadn't been forced to play so many guys maybe it wouldn't have been as trashy."  

Does Nico win us three games that we lost?  Of course not...  Does having Nico and Ambry all season help us win a game or two and maybe not look horrible?  Probably.  

There's no way to know whether Nico helped or hurt his draft status with his decision and that wasn't my point.  My point was that I wish we got to see our best players on the field wearing the uniform and giving us the best chance to win - which is the selfish fan perspective and not Nico's perspective or that of the NFL.  I love Nico and I wanted to see him catching passes for us this season - I'm jealous of the teams who did get to see their stars play.  I'm also frustrated that we probably would have wasted Nico's talents too.