Michigan tied for 5th in the coaches poll with Georgia, remains 4th in S&P+

Submitted by Bambi on October 28th, 2018 at 1:01 PM

Link to poll

1 Alabama 8-0

2 Clemson 8-0

3 Notre Dame 8-0

4 Louisiana State 7-1

5 Michigan 7-1

5 Georgia 7-1

7 Oklahoma 7-1

8 Ohio State 7-1

9 Central Florida 7-0

10 West Virginia 6-1

11 Washington State 7-1

12 Kentucky 7-1 932

13 Penn State 6-2

14 Florida 6-2

15 Texas 6-2

16 Utah 6-2

17 Houston 7-1

18 Iowa 6-2

19 Washington 6-3

20 Utah State 7-1

21 Mississippi State 5-3

22 Virginia 6-2

23 Fresno State 7-1

24 Syracuse 6-2

25 Boston College 6-2

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mgoblue98

October 28th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^

LSU plays Alabama and Georgia plays Kentucky.  

An Alabama win eliminates LSU.  The loser of the Georgia-Kentucky game is eliminated.  The loser of the SEC championship game should be eliminated.

An Alabama loss vs. LSU, missing the SEC championship game and ending the season 11-1 is the worst case scenario for Michigan in my opinion.

KBLOW

October 28th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^

WSU would destroy them. OSU's secondary and LB's are not good enough to stop WSU. WSU's D is easily equal to OSU's. 

I think Utah would beat them up and win.

Despite yesterday, Washington and Oregon have teams good enough offensively to be repeats of Purdue.

 

Hard-Baughlls

October 28th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^

OSU is an exceptionally talented group of players that aggregate to an above average team. The whole is less than the sum of its parts. Teams like USC and Florida State, would be even more extreme examples of that this year. We were essentially this throughout the Hoke regime.

Their talent level, pedigree, and success over the past 15 years gives OSU the benefit of the doubt in all the polls

Those who actually watch the games, can see the glaring holes and lack of unity and fluidity required to be an elite team.

 

Ghost of Fritz…

October 28th, 2018 at 2:17 PM ^

The whole phenomenon of teams with high end recruiting ending up being worse than the sum of their parts is...all to familiar to every Michigan fan during the Hoke years (and arguably some of the late Carr years).

Maybe that is OSU this year.  Meyer's last Florida team was like that, right?  They had racked up several monster recruiting classes, but then under performed.

Hard-Baughlls

October 28th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^

Correct. I used to always joke that nobody did less with more than Lloyd. Moeller would have won multiple national titles at UM.

 Mack Brown was also always in contention for the annual under achiever award.  Both he and Lloyd did at least manage to win 1 national title, but wow... a lot of wasted talent under both those tenures.

Then came Brady Hoke, and he said, hold my beer guys.  Not only will I be a shitty game day coach, but I will also under-develop the 4 and 5 star recruits I bring in to my program.  At that point, we all began to rewrite the Carr era as really, not that bad.

Harbaugh is, and always has been, a team builder. He'll win with his, he'll win with yours - so long as he has a functional QB and O-line.  Really excited to see what happens as he gets elite talent at all positions - including QB play, while Don Brown keeps pushing out killer defenses.

Bambi

October 28th, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^

The SEC won't get 2 teams in. OSU, a 2 loss B1G champ with a 30 point loss to mediocre Iowa, almost got in over a 1 loss non champ in Bama. A 1 loss B1G champ is getting in over any non champ. At best one Georgia/Kentucky will have 1 loss going into the SEC title game and then they either lose and are out or beat the West rep and are in over Bama.

Bambi

October 28th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^

There's no reason to think that'll happen except for Chicken Little syndrome or wanting to scream and yell "SEC BIAS PAWWWWWL." A 1 loss Bama, who had a better or at worst equal resume last year when compared to the potential resume this year, was only 1 spot ahead of a 2 loss OSU B1G champ who had a 30 point loss to Iowa. If we win out at 12-1, I'd put money on us being in over a 2nd SEC team.

FauxMo

October 28th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^

Michigan plays 13th ranked PSU at home next weekend. 

Georgia plays 12th ranked Kentucky on the road. 

Interesting to see how the polls shakes out based on the outcome of those games. I wouldn't be shocked if we win convincingly and Georgia wins a close game, they still jump us. Because SEC... 

J.

October 28th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^

Oddly, there appear to be two more voters this week.  (?)

There are 1600 points possible this week (64 voters).  A unanimous first-place team would get 100% of those points; a unanimous second-place team would get 96% of them; etc.  At 1295 points, Michigan and Georgia each got 80.9% of the possible points, which equates to just better than 6th.  (In other words — there were more outliers pulling those teams down than pushing them up).

For comparison’s sake, last week Michigan had 1228 of a possible 1550 points (62 voters), or 79.2%.  So, despite “falling” into a tie, Michigan actually improved its standing slightly this week.

Franz Schubert

October 28th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^

Kentucky is stupidly overrated. Didn’t score an offensive point until the last untimed down of the game resulting from a weak PI call.. Against Missouri. If Michigan had a performance like that, I would expect a huge drop but the SEC team moves up in the polls.

lhglrkwg

October 28th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^

Kentucky is that classic P5 team that nobody actually thinks is good, but they have a good win or two and they haven't managed to lose against crappier teams (despite looking horrible doing so)

They'll be ranked this high till an actual top 10 team beats them like 42-17. Then they'll still finish 10-3 with a nice bowl win and they'll finish the season around #10 and no one will actually know if they're actually good or not.

MGoFunkadelic

October 28th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^

LSU plays Alabama this coming saturday so we'll see how that plays out. should drop LSU out of CFP.  LSU also has Texas A&M as their last game so 2 ranked opponents left.

the rest of Clemson's schedule looks pretty winnable for them.

notre dame's only potential trap game is at Northwestern next week and maybe USC as the last game of the year and a big rivalry game.

Alabama also has Auburn and Miss St with a cupcake game against Citadel who has a 0.1% chance of winning apparently.

Georgia has UK next week and then Auburn but UMass and GT are pretty much locks for them.

really Michigan has the most difficult schedule remaining for the top 5/6 teams.

EDIT:

AP is up.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll/2018/10

 

BornInA2

October 28th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^

My buddy is a huge fan. He's apoplectic about their offense. It really reminds me of a whole lot of recent years of Michigan football where the defense is great and the offense can't get it in gear. Their starting running back is out, but the issue looks like O-line and Browning (QB), who looks like he's either nursing an arm injury or has the yips.