META: MGoBlog Moderation Survey: Let your voice be heard (maybe)(UPDATED)
So, we have had this new moderation system for a while. Brian asked us to give it a chance, and I believe we have been using it long enough that each of us have given it a fair shake.
A lot of people (myself included) don't like the new system, so here is the chance for everyone's voices to be heard. Like it, love it, or hate it, I created a survey where you can share your opinions.
I don't know if Brian will pay any attention to this, but I thought it might make people feel better to vent their hatred/love for the new system. In a day or two I will update the thread with responses people have given. If anyone can think of any other questions I should add, leave them in the comments.
Brian, if you would like the login information so you can view specific answers, please let me know, I'd be glad to share. Also I can add any further questions you may be interested to ask.
EDIT: If mods want to bump this to prevent it from getting buried once people actually wake up, in order to have a higher response rate, I won't argue.
UPDATE: So turns out Tater was kinda right. Nothing is ever free. After getting 100 responses (surprised that many people were up late last night) it is asking me to sign up for a paid account to see over the first 100 responses. Therefore, my counts will only include those responses (sorry if you were after that).
Question 1: Do you like the new moderate system?
YES: 16%
NO: 84%
Question 2: What don't you like about the new system?
Too high/low threshold (higher than +5/lower than -1): 30.3% (ed: this was added after a few people already responded so not actually representative)
Too many choices: 20.2%
Not enough choices: 16.2%
Choices not representative of how I view comments: 54.5%
Choices too vague: 23.2%
Requires too much thought: 20.2%
NO NEGBOMB!!!!: 67.7%
Too complicated: 26.3%
Other: 15.2% (includes write-ins: doesn't moderate anything; less incentive to post well; doesn't effect mgopoints; overengineered slashdot nonsense system; no need for labels like "normal," flamebait", etc.; viewing threshold complaints)
Question 3: What would be the best system of moderation?
Current system: 4%
Old system (+/-): 56%
Combination featuring a simple +/- with a "flamebait, trolling, funny" if seen fit: 29%
New system with general +/- if your reasoning doesn't fit into predefined categories: 2%
Get rid of them all together: 4%
Other: 5% (includes write-ins: no user moderation at all; fewer down voting options; added option of wishing terrible misfortune on the poster; adding more adjectives)
There's no "disagree" button because you're not supposed to moderate someone simply because you disagree with them - that's what the "reply" button is for. As long as the posts aren't trolling, or flamebait, or offtopic, you're supposed to be allowed to have a difference of opinion.
This post is underrated, but my moderation will not reflect that.
This post deserves more than a +5 IMHE.
The purpose of the system isn't to say "I agree, +1" or "no way, -1" -- it's designed to accentuate the good posts and punish the bad ones (or at least save the readers) by making them basically invisible. Disagreeing with something doesn't make it a neg-worthy post.
I've always thought we should have something like a "misinformed" label/mediator.
I think it would be very useful to have a moderation tag that simply said "dumb"
1) Thanks to Let's_Go_Blue for doing this.
2) I believe the new system is encouraging useless posts. Because it is harder to build up point totals, people post more stuff (regardless of content quality/humor) in an effort to build up points. New people to reach the magic posting threshold, old users because of the vanishing point program.
The survey validates what nearly everyone has been saying-that the new system is not only flawed but irritating to users in many ways. I just don't understand why Brian would not listen to the masses and either return to the previous approach or at least change to reflect the overwhelming sentiments of the people who support MGoBlog.
Also, points should be eternal. Having them expire only encourages me to post stupid pictures for no reason, to avoid going under 100. Make negs count, and remove the neg cap, people really need to get banged aroung here.
you don't know the half of it, brother.
/marriedjokes