M Football Using Hydraulic Lifts?

Submitted by ATLWolverine on

 

Great to see spring practice today, but I noticed in the background of several pictures that M is still using hydraulic lifts during practices. I know that Notre Dame no longer uses these lifts after the unfortunate incident with a ND student assistant falling to his death after a lift was pulled over during a storm.

ND has since said that they will no longer use lifts, period, and instead use remote cameras, presumably for safety reasons. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14815438/indiana-faults-notre-dame-for-hydraulic-lift-accident)

Does anyone know if hydraulic lifts are generally being phased out as an unsafe practice for FB practice, or if ND is just being proactive in avoiding any possible issue involving such lifts ever again and most schools (including M) stil use them?

Marley Nowell

April 14th, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^

I have worked in construction and lifts are not dangerous when used properly. From the day that young student died everything ND has said and done has been to cover their own asses

Mfan1974

April 14th, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^

A one time not very well thought out action on ND campus shall not inhibit our or any football program from using equipment designed and built to do a job. For all we know the engineer that designed the lift is an M grad.  One example of equipment being used improperly and then the public going all willy nilly about the product and then getting a perfectly good and usable American built product taken out of production because of the neglegence of authorty in charge of said product. 

It wasn't the lift companies, the kid who died, or the university or the design team.... it was the head football coach and saftey compliance persons who dropped the ball(no pun intendened).  

In short: the matter that we use the pictured lift should not a problem. 

 

Koyote

April 14th, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^

I vaguely recall reading something about the ND ones not being secured properly. I could be wrong on that though. Hopefully these are well secured and the guy at the top can come down if weather gets bad. 

fatman_do

April 14th, 2011 at 7:25 PM ^

The use of a "Man-Lift' outside is not usafe and a very common practice if operated in the right conditions. Notre Dame is doing the right thing by them, because how could they look at another kid and ask them to go up in a lift. No controversy here.

dennisblundon

April 14th, 2011 at 7:45 PM ^

As a contractor, I don't allow anybody to use a manlift or JLG without first being through a safety class on the machine. After that they are given a briefing on all the controls and how they are used. I hope ND was wise enough to do this as well but something tells me they were not.

fatbastard

April 14th, 2011 at 8:03 PM ^

a long time and you're normally not a troll wack job -- and I'm not really suggesting you are.  However, I think we can all agree that ND is and should be very very careful about everything they do related to the football team, and take super extra serious precautions for everything.  This is not necessary at other schools where a student did not die in 50+ mile hour winds.  The incompetence of those in charge that day is not only worthy of a a civil suit, but could very easily be deemed criminal.  Kelly is lucky he wasn't fired over it.

justthinking

April 15th, 2011 at 2:41 AM ^

It took me a while to even see the lift in the background of the photo - I was too enamored with Denard's improved throwing motion in the photo. I'm excited to get to see him play this weekend and then compare it to where he ends up this fall. I know he'll work his butt off and believe the competition will be a good thing too. He's always had a strong enough arm to just wing it off his back foot and get away with it. That won't cut it going forward.

Proper footwork, leaning into the throw, releasing high and leading the receiver somewhere downfield AT 3 SECONDS is going to make Denard even more dangerous than he was last season as a true first year starter.

The 7 on 7s will help him get the timing down with his receivers over the summer, and I'm praying he spends the remaining time watching film and counting to three.

Hostages released.....

SysMark

April 15th, 2011 at 9:27 AM ^

That lift is safe when used under proper conditions.  Kelly and ND used it under conditions that obviously exceeded very clearly specified wind limits and someone was killed.  As a result ND should never be allowed to use a lift again - and they shouldn't want to.  It's like drunk driving - do it, hurt people, no more driving.